The intimihealer

[Grynberg]

14.12.2010: I made some changes to this build. Swapped extend spell and SF: intimidate for empower spell and IC: slashing. Also I got a docent with large guild augement and I'm going to get the epic gloves of the claw. New selfbuffed intimidate is 64.
I also swapped around some equipment. Added Epic SoS and Torin's Choker.

A short overview of the build - Level 20 WF Fvs, 617 hps, 2750 mana, 37 DR raidhealing intimitank.

Starting stats (36pt build):
15 Str/ 28 Str (+5 Level ups, +6 item, +2 tome) (32 +3 exceptional, and +3 tome)
8 Dex/ 16 Dex (+7 item, +1 tome)
18 Con/ 28 Con (+6 item, +2 tome, +2 enhancement) (32 with +3 exceptional, +3 tome)
13 Int/ 14 Int (+1 tome)
6 Wis/ 14 Wis (+6 item, +2 tome)
15 Cha/ 28 Cha (+6 item, +2 tome, +2 capstone, +3 enhancement.) (32 with +3 exceptional, +3 tome)

Skills
Concentration, Balance, Intimidate and Jump (from level 4, after eating +1 int tome)

Feats
Adamantine body (swap with Maximise spell on level 12)
Toughness
Empower spell
Empower healing
Quicken spell
Power attack
IC: Slashing

Favored Soul Feats:
Favored by the Lord of Blades
Child of the Lord of Blades
Energy Resistance Fire
Energy Resistance Cold
Energy Resistance Lightning
Beloved by the Lord of Blades
Leap of Faith
Damage Reduction: Adamantine

Enhancements
Favored Soul Ascendency: Lord of Blades
Favored Soul Greatsword Specialization II
Racial Toughness IV
Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Favored Soul Charisma III
Favored Soul Toughness IV
Warforged Constitution II
Warforged Construct Thinking II
Warforged Damage Reduction III
Warforged Healer's Friend II
Warforged Power Attack III

Spell list
Hm. Buffs, heals and bladebarrier. That's it

HP breakdown
160 favored soul base
20 heroic durability feat
220 con bonus
22 toughness feat
80 toughness enhancements
40 superior false life
10 dragonic hp bonus from GH favor
20 item toughness
45 greensteel
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617 total hp unbuffed

Mana breakdown
1939 level 20 mana from DDO char gen
116 from item cha bonus
300 greensteel (50+100 times two)
400 archmagi item
~350 mystical bauble
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~3100 mana per shrine

Damage resistance
10 fvs capstone
3 WF enhancements
24 shield blocking with the hound shield
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37 Working DR

Intimidate breakdown
11.0 base
11.0 charisma bonus
2.0 lord of blades capstone
15.0 item bonus
6.0 greensteel exceptional bonus
2.0 head of good fortune
2.0 400 favor with Coin Lords
5.0 Epic Gloves of the Claw
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54.0 Base intimidate
1.0 Philaran Entertainer guild buff
1.0 Guild charisma +2 shrine
4.0 Large guild augement on docent
4.0 greater heroism
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64.0 Selfbuffed
2.0 walk of the sun
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66.0 With other buffs
1.0 Yugoloth pot cha bonus
2.0 DDO pot cha bonus (highly situational)
3.0 House D pot
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72.0 Possible but unrealistic intimidate. Probably only using pots on elite.
5.0 Epic helmets (like Mroranon helm) will be upgraded so they add +20 intimidate somewhere in the future so this is a place to improve a little.
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77.0 Possible intimidate in the future.

Equipment.
I'm missing epic mroranon and gnawed ring. Haven't bothered to upgrade the gloves as well. +2 dex and +2 to hit arent motivating enough

head - +15 intimidate cap (swapping for Epic Mroranon when they update epics)
googles - Greensteel Concordant Opposition with +45 hp and +str/con skills
necklace - Torc/Torin's Choker
trinket - Head of Good Fortune/Mysterious Bauble
ring - Warchanter's Band +6 cha, +3 exc str
ring - Gnawed Ring +6 str, +3 exc con
body - Quorforged Docent of Battle/Docent with large guild augement for intimidate purpose
bracers - Glacier bracers
belt - Vorne's Belt
boots - 30% striding
gloves - Epic Spectral Gloves/Epic Gloves of the Claw
cloak - Greensteel, 600 mana, +6 cha exc skills, lightning guard

Wielded for DPS
Mineral II greensteel greatsword/Epic Sword of Shadows
Tank set
Positive energy II throwing dagger, 10% healing amplification, +3 exc charisma
Hound shield

[Gol]

Multiple Conc Opp items are a waste of large ingreds, just fyi. IMO, you'd be better off with your +Cha skill / SP item on your cloak and free up your bracers for something more useful than some mediocre guards.

[Grynberg]

Multiple Conc Opp items are a waste of large ingreds, just fyi. IMO, you'd be better off with your +Cha skill / SP item on your cloak and free up your bracers for something more useful than some mediocre guards.

Hm. I'm only at my first conc op item, so an explanation is very much apreciated Why are they a waste?

Actually he most important thing that troubles me if 61.5 intimidate is worth anything?

[Gol]

Hm. I'm only at my first conc op item, so an explanation is very much apreciated Why are they a waste?

Actually he most important thing that troubles me if 61.5 intimidate is worth anything?

61 intimidate is good for anything non-epic. You'll sometimes be able to intimidate on epic, but not always.

Wearing multiple Concordant Opp items will not increase the total proc rate. That is, having 2 will not get you any more SP/HP regen than having 1. You'd be much better served dropping the necklace for a Torc.

[Grynberg]

61 intimidate is good for anything non-epic. You'll sometimes be able to intimidate on epic, but not always.

Wearing multiple Concordant Opp items will not increase the total proc rate. That is, having 2 will not get you any more SP/HP regen than having 1. You'd be much better served dropping the necklace for a Torc.

Hm. Good advice. Going to move the cha skills and mana bonus to cloak and leave leviks where they are. Incoming healing% is always good to have.

EDIT: By the way, do you know how the docent of deciance works exactly? I'm not sure yet if the DR stacks with my natural and shield DR.

[Gol]

Hm. Good advice. Going to move the cha skills and mana bonus to cloak and leave leviks where they are. Incoming healing% is always good to have.

EDIT: By the way, do you know how the docent of deciance works exactly? I'm not sure yet if the DR stacks with my natural and shield DR.

The DoD DR does not stack with your natural (that is, warforged) or shield DR. For a capped pure FvS Warforged, the DoD is not quite as uber as it normally is. You get 10/adamantine for free (which very few monsters can bypass) vs 20/- and a crippling effect when you take off Quorforged. IMO, leave the Quorforged on.

Bracers of the Glacier are also worth considering (Archmagi, Spell Pen VIII, Proc'ing Fire Shield), as would be Epic Kundarak Bracers (+5 Resist, +6 Con, slotted).

[Grynberg]

Multiple Conc Opp items are a waste of large ingreds, just fyi. IMO, you'd be better off with your +Cha skill / SP item on your cloak and free up your bracers for something more useful than some mediocre guards.

Hm. I did some research about this and I think you're wrong, Gol. Multiple conc op items stack.
Someone had 5 of them and posted a video of a test.

First test - 1 conc op weapon and 1 conc op item - he regened 3k mana in 4 minutes.
Second test - 2 conc op weapons and 3 conc op items - he regened 3k mana in 2 minutes 25 seconds.

Watch for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5WMj...eature=related

Torc wasn't worn anywhere in the test.

I'm going to redo the equipment later.

[Dark-Star]

Gryn, definitely, without question here is how con-op stacking works based on my own tests and those of other reputable posters:

1 worn item + 1 weapon + torc all stack. Nothing else will stack. Period.

[Grynberg]

Gryn, definitely, without question here is how con-op stacking works based on my own tests and those of other reputable posters:

1 worn item + 1 weapon + torc all stack. Nothing else will stack. Period.

I just finished reading a VERY long thread and I came to the same conclusion. I was a little too hasty posting the previous post.

The following post pretty much sums it up for me.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=524

Thanks for the reply though. I'm so glad I got this out of the way before I actually started crafting the second one. Imagine the dissapointment!

[Grynberg]

Updated the build according to update 7 changes (and the epic changes they promised a while ago)

[Gol]

edit: nevermind, responded to a 4-month-old reply

[Carpone]

Time to update this build. Corrected the equipment and added some stuff to the intimidate calculation. Breaking 57 selfbuffed intimidate after U7.

Intimidate breakdown
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72.0 Possible intimidate in the future.

Unless you're no-fail with intimidate, it's nothing to be proud of. You need to aim higher for elite Xyzzy (79+1d20) and epic Lailat (78+1d20) if you want to be counted upon as an intimitank.

Check out how it's done: http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/eracia

She intimitanks epic DQ every three days flawlessly.

[~Glouscester]

Unless you're no-fail with intimidate, it's nothing to be proud of. You need to aim higher for elite Xyzzy (79+1d20) and epic Lailat (78+1d20) if you want to be counted upon as an intimitank.

Check out how it's done: http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/eracia

She intimitanks epic DQ every three days flawlessly.

So, because he can't get enough intimidate to tank elite hound and eDQ he shouldn't try to get enough to tank most of the raids in the game on hard or elite?


How does your buddy do in ToD elite? Pretty **** reflex and lowish hp. Maybe they should reroll too.

[Carpone]

So, because he can't get enough intimidate to tank elite hound and eDQ he shouldn't try to get enough to tank most of the raids in the game on hard or elite?

Aim higher. If you're going to bother to market yourself as an intimitank, then you better be able to step up and get the job done when it matters. Elite Xyzzy and Epic Lailat are where being an intimitank is useful. Not that any content in DDO requires an intimitank, it just trivializes certain encounters.

How does your buddy do in ToD elite? Pretty **** reflex and lowish hp. Maybe they should reroll too.

My buddy solo tanks elite Suulo resiliently without Waves of Exhaustion. Intimitank + self healing + Torc + con copp = energizer bunny. No point in her intimtanking Horoth. Any of the barbarians I run with (including me) hate tank Horoth effortlessly just by DPSing.

[Grynberg]

I don't claim it's the best intimitank out there and naturally there are way better intimitanks.

The goal of this excercise was to add intimidate to a level 20 pure favored soul. I didn't want to loose any fvs levels because of the capstone DR. The build you posted earlier was a 17fvs/something split. He doesn't even have mass heal! What kind of a healer is that

My main job in most of the raids will still be raid healing and off-dps. With close to 3000 mana and everything a cleric needs, he can keep a shroud gang alive solo. On another note, he can and has successfully hate-tanked many of the raid bosses so the DPS aint too shabby as well.

600+ hps, 37 DR and 60+ intimidate just add to the flavor.

EDIT: As you can see the name of the thread is Intimihealer. Not "The best intimitank out there".

[Carpone]

A short overview of the build - Level 20 WF Fvs, 617 hps, 2750 mana, 37 DR raidhealing intimitank.

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EDIT: As you can see the name of the thread is Intimihealer. Not "The best intimitank out there".

You called this build a "raidhealing intimitank". You're not an intimitank if you can't intimidate raid bosses.

[~Glouscester]

Aim higher. If you're going to bother to market yourself as an intimitank, then you better be able to step up and get the job done when it matters. Elite Xyzzy and Epic Lailat are where being an intimitank is useful. Not that any content in DDO requires an intimitank, it just trivializes certain encounters.


My buddy solo tanks elite Suulo resiliently without Waves of Exhaustion. Intimitank + self healing + Torc + con copp = energizer bunny. No point in her intimtanking Horoth. Any of the barbarians I run with (including me) hate tank Horoth effortlessly just by DPSing.

Yes, hate tanking is the way to go. A WF fvs can also hate tank any of the raid bosses. Having 60+ intimidate is just really useful for a healer with high dr. Maybe he isn't going to go out and intim elite and epic content, but he can run in pugs and be confident that he'll get his completion. If he's lucky he'll teach one or two of them to not suck so bad in the future.

How about, stop complaining that he isn't an intimitank and offer a suggestion for him to increase his intim.

[amanda_t]

My FvS timmytank is my favorite toon right now! TR'd my beloved cleric into a 19 FvS/1 Fighter and she is so fun to play! Being main healer and timmy frees up a slot for an extra DPS... no long waits for a timmy or a healer...you got both!! Intim right now at 18 is a 65 without buffs...most fun ever