Virtuoso

[Nashako]

I and others helped Sanligo come up with this pure bard Virtuoso build a while ago. It's human, but fairly easy to adapt to halfling or drow, though you'd lose a feat.

It's also fairly easy to take any Warchanter build and turn it into a Virt; just drop PA & WF and take your Virt pre-req + another feat instead. You don't even need high CHA to have a high Perform skill.

The tough part about playing a Virt isn't the build, it's the tactics: i.e., learning to use your CC songs effectively to stun as many monsters as possible without getting killed in the process; and more importantly training your teammates how to fight effectively so they don't run around undoing all your hard work by hitting every stunned monster they see, then complaining about how Virts suck compared to WCs.

That is exactly what I was looking for, ubongwah! I actually laughed at the "training your teammates" part lol

In that other thread, they talk about running up to a group of monsters already playing Fascinate (and I'm assuming Enthrall works basically the same?), and it will hit right as they are running up to the mob. Again, I'm assuming this will take some practice to get the timing down right so you'll be able to hit as many people as possible.

Another thing; I've heard about the songs that basically fascinate undead and constructs. These are two songs separate from Fascinate, right? Does Enthrall do this, or will those songs still be needed?

And finally (for now), how does Suggestion work? You fascinate a mob, then use suggestion and... nobody ever says what they do after that.