Imagine if you will... Just humor me!

[greybucket]

...A group of cocky adventurers come together for a seemingly quick, easy favor run even by elite standards. One part of the group takes one side of the dungeon while the other group takes off to the other to clear out optionals, pull levers, etc. only to meet up at the same ol' mob,who does the same ol' thing... Only things go horribly wrong and the party wipes before they new what hit them.

After resurrecting, repairing, name calling and blaming each other's class or playing style for their fate, they return to the very same quest vowing revenge. Upon entering the dungeon the second time, things look different. Mobs weren't where they usually are, passageways boarded up seeming to herd them to areas they had never seen before so many times before. Voices calling out to them, taunting them...

I can keep going with this, but I think it would be great if once in a while, the devs would randomly join in and play random mobs and give some unsuspecting group a run for their money! Anybody else thought about this? I'd love to see it. It would certainly keep ppl on their toes. What are your thoughts?

[Uska]

Sounds fun to bad it wont happen but +1 anyways

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Considering like, 1/3 of the PuGs I see are for Casual (if it's on option on the quest), I don't think this would get as much play as you'd imagine.

Also; there needs to be a way to opt in/out.

[Tymoriel_Ayreweaver]

...A group of cocky adventurers come together for a seemingly quick, easy favor run even by elite standards. One part of the group takes one side of the dungeon while the other group takes off to the other to clear out optionals, pull levers, etc. only to meet up at the same ol' mob,who does the same ol' thing... Only things go horribly wrong and the party wipes before they new what hit them.

After resurrecting, repairing, name calling and blaming each other's class or playing style for their fate, they return to the very same quest vowing revenge. Upon entering the dungeon the second time, things look different. Mobs weren't where they usually are, passageways boarded up seeming to herd them to areas they had never seen before so many times before. Voices calling out to them, taunting them...

I can keep going with this, but I think it would be great if once in a while, the devs would randomly join in and play random mobs and give some unsuspecting group a run for their money! Anybody else thought about this? I'd love to see it. It would certainly keep ppl on their toes. What are your thoughts?

I've seen this suggested tons and tons of times on the forums... random dungeons. It will just never happen.

[Zenako]

While yes it would be cool/fun, it could also be horribly unfair to some. GM's were able to do this sort of thing on the Test Server, and in fact all game together for an awesome end of server conflagration, HOWEVER, they could do so freely since all those characters were about to be wiped. IF you long treasured items took tons of permanent damage, it was meaningless since the entire toon on the test server was going to vaporize anyway.

If it was on invitation only, or opt in/opt out, that would be a nightmare to adjudicate. GM's/Devs are people too, and bias would be hard to control with a system like that available.

What however you are actually seeking however seems to be variable dungeons, so that there are changes each time you enter it. While conceptually appealing, it also has issues of fairness. It also has the issue of how to vary it enough to notice, but to not completely ignore the challenge settings. If the variations are only pulled from a stock list, then pretty quickly players learn (oh we are in the Undead version of Tangleroot, not the fleshy version) how to handle them all, or just exit and reform the party until you get the version you want to run (or that is considered the easiest version to beat (if Part 2 of the Shroud were actually Part 1, I can almost assure you some groups would do just that, if they did not already have 10 minutes invested in beating part 1)).

[Gunga]

Or, maybe, if you're feeling particularly evil, you could log in to play the monsters in those very same quests, against your mates.

That would be a level of PVP that would bring a bunch of people back to the game.

[Zenako]

Or, maybe, if you're feeling particularly evil, you could log in to play the monsters in those very same quests, against your mates.

That would be a level of PVP that would bring a bunch of people back to the game.

That would be cool. Same mobs, same abilities, but with a HUMAN AI directing them instead of algorithms. However, the need to multitask would be HUGE and I am not sure any human alive could do them justice. Perhaps just with a quest boss, or only being able to take on the controls for "named mobs" in a quest.

[Omadas]

What if you did a Npc Store item setup.. Go to so and so the wandering dude who has random treasure maps to whereever within the lvl range of the user.. doulbe clicky and whoosh fighting some gnolls on the outskirts of a random camp or cave err whatever..

[Master_Jedi_Soda]

That could be fun. Imagine us playing the mobs as in this thread by MrWizard!

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...rst+pug+shroud