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    Default Please allow us to open all quests on elite

    To me, allowing us to open quests on hard felt like when we went from 4 to 7 two-weapon slots. I was, at the same time, gratified that a long-standing issue was addressed and frustrated that the solution was so incomplete This irritation continues every time I go to a quest that I only want to do once.

    I think the original objections no longer apply. There are plenty of quests at low and mid range, so forced repeatability isn't an issue. Also, on average, quests won't be played less. Those that are played less because they are only played played once will be balanced by those that are played at all because they only have to be played once.

    I completely support making it cost something: as part of the VIP package, something you buy per account with TP (like 32 point builds), or some combination.

    Please allow us to open everything on elite.
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    p.s. I still experience happy feelings towards the developers every time I look at my 20 two-weapon slots.
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    Part of the rationale for the limit was to protect the stupid from themselves. New players will almost certainly get owned and killed on Elite until they are prepared for the quests. Think about it, what gamer ever minted would, when faced with derision from their peers, admit to doing anything in a game on less than the hardest setting that they can acess. Doing anything else would be gimpy and wimpy.

    So to protect them and give them cover, the game has limits.

    F2P and Premium can only open on Normal.

    VIPs (who tend to be more hooked and less prone to running away claiming the game is too hard) get to open on Hard.

    I could see an ACCOUNT based option that would allow you to open quests on ELITE. Perhaps a FAVOR increment (3000 favor?). That would ensure that the player with that account had already experienced most of the game on ELITE already and could handle it. It should be something that could be earned.
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    the ability to open any quest on elite should be a benefit of true reincarnating. i see no reason why not
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    /signed
    but, make it favor based to protect noobies.
    there is no reason why six reincarnates need to do korthos Island on hard first when we can usually solo elite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcTharin View Post
    the ability to open any quest on elite should be a benefit of true reincarnating. i see no reason why not
    That would make a lot of sense! Anybody that has run a toon to 20 and paid to TR it should certainly know the relative difficulty of any quest in the game, and if they misjudge it be smart enough to realize they overstepped (overstated) their toons abilities rather than whine about the quest being too difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcTharin View Post
    the ability to open any quest on elite should be a benefit of true reincarnating. i see no reason why not
    This is probably the most elegant suggestion I've seen for this.

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    /signed so hard

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    I must be bugged then. As a VIP I can open Elite without have ever done Hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcTharin View Post
    the ability to open any quest on elite should be a benefit of true reincarnating. i see no reason why not
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcTharin View Post
    the ability to open any quest on elite should be a benefit of true reincarnating. i see no reason why not
    This is an excellent suggestion. But one reason may be that it doesn't earn them any more monney. Anyway, I'm all for it. I'd even be for it costing extra.
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    personaly i do all quest on norm a few times then hard a couple times then elite a few times shut i went from 15 too 20 solo with out even flaging for shroud lol { was a caster so was in no hurry for another shroud }.. but tooeach he's own IMHO
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    /signed

    idk maybe make this the 400 coin lord reward
    im still mad about there not being one

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    /signed.....but

    I think one thing you will find very consistent with DDO is they don't get rid of timesinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    I must be bugged then. As a VIP I can open Elite without have ever done Hard.
    Must be. I can open hard on things I've never done, but not elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vVAnjilaVv View Post
    I think one thing you will find very consistent with DDO is they don't get rid of timesinks.
    Except they did go half-way to hard.

    The other issue I'm wondering about is people farming Turbine Points. They don't want that to be too trivial. Hopefully there is a way to mitigate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    I must be bugged then. As a VIP I can open Elite without have ever done Hard.
    I wish I had that bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcTharin View Post
    the ability to open any quest on elite should be a benefit of true reincarnating. i see no reason why not
    Hmm... I hate taking away VIP perks, there are few enough, but I like the idea of perking TR. Maybe TR lets you open one level harder? So if you are free/premium and TR you can open hard, VIP plus TR opens elite?

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    Mitigating the turbine point issue is very simple......you only get favor towards tp's for elite but not normal and hard......example...quest gives 21 total favor...u don't get the 14 for n/h but only the 7 after completing elite for tp's...however you still get the full 21 favor for ingame patron rewards and like 1750.

    I guess this could be difficult to track tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    I must be bugged then. As a VIP I can open Elite without have ever done Hard.
    I have a feeling you are mistaken.

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    I would guess there is a 'premium account" purchase option coming to a DDO Store near you allowing you to open on Elite! Just give the QC a little time to whip it up.
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