This is something I was mulling over this morning. Let me know what you think.
Features:Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Human Female (9 Paladin \ 11 Cleric) Hit Points: 330 Spell Points: 707 BAB: 17\17\22\27\27 Fortitude: 23 Reflex: 12 Will: 21 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 15 19 20 Dexterity 8 8 8 Constitution 14 16 16 Intelligence 10 12 12 Wisdom 12 16 18 Charisma 15 18 20 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 1 10.5 10.5 Bluff 2 5 5 Concentration 6 26 26 Diplomacy 2 5 5 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle 2 5 5 Heal 1 17 17 Hide -1 -1 -1 Intimidate 2 5 5 Jump 2 5 5 Listen 1 4 4 Move Silently -1 -1 -1 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair 0 1 1 Search 0 1 1 Spot 1 4 4 Swim 2 5 5 Tumble n/a n/a n/a Use Magic Device 4 16.5 16.5 Level 1 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+2) Skill: Concentration (+4) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead Spell (1): Bane Spell (1): Bless Spell (1): Cause Fear Spell (1): Command Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Doom Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds Spell (1): Nightshield Spell (1): Nimbus of Light Spell (1): Obscuring Mist Spell (1): Protection From Evil Spell (1): Remove Fear Spell (1): Shield of Faith Spell (1): Summon Monster I Level 2 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I Level 3 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 4 (Paladin) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I Level 5 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (2): Aid Spell (2): Bear's Endurance Spell (2): Bull's Strength Spell (2): Close Wounds Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (2): Deific Vengance Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor Spell (2): Find Traps Spell (2): Hold Person Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds Spell (2): Lesser Restoration Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom Spell (2): Remove Paralysis Spell (2): Resist Energy Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest Spell (2): Soundburst Spell (2): Spawn Screen Spell (2): Summon Monster II Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I Level 6 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I Level 7 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 8 (Paladin) Ability Raise: WIS Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (1): Lesser Restoration Spell (1): Lionheart Spell (1): Resistance Spell (1): Virtue Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II Level 9 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting Spell (3): Bestow Curse Spell (3): Blindness Spell (3): Contagion Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds Spell (3): Dispel Magic Spell (3): Glyph of Warding Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Spell (3): Mass Aid Spell (3): Prayer Spell (3): Protection From Energy Spell (3): Remove Blindness Spell (3): Remove Curse Spell (3): Remove Disease Spell (3): Searing Light Spell (3): Summon Monster III Spell (3): Water Breathing Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I Level 10 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II Level 11 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II Level 12 (Cleric) Ability Raise: WIS Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Spell (4): Chaos Hammer Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds Spell (4): Deathward Spell (4): Dismissal Spell (4): Divine Power Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (4): Holy Smite Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith Spell (4): Neutralize Poison Spell (4): Order's Wrath Spell (4): Panacea Spell (4): Poison Spell (4): Recitation Spell (4): Restoration Spell (4): Summon Monster IV Spell (4): Symbol of Flame Spell (4): Unholy Blight Level 13 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II Level 14 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III Level 15 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting Level 16 (Paladin) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (2): Angelskin Level 17 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (5): Break Enchantment Spell (5): Flame Strike Spell (5): Greater Command Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds Spell (5): Protection From Elements Spell (5): Raise Dead Spell (5): Slay Living Spell (5): Spell Resistance Spell (5): Stalwart Pact Spell (5): Summon Monster V Spell (5): Symbol of Pain Spell (5): True Seeing Level 18 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery III Level 19 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 20 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (6): Banishment Spell (6): Blade Barrier Spell (6): Cometfall Spell (6): Create Undead Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding Spell (6): Harm Spell (6): Heal Spell (6): Heroes Feast Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom Spell (6): Summon Monster VI Spell (6): Symbol of Fear Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion Spell (6): Undead to Death Spell (6): Word of Recall Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
330 HP, 770 SP
Two-Handed Fighting (Greater)
Unyielding Sovereignty
Lay on Hands (x2)
Extend Spell
Empower Healing
Access to Cleric Spell: "Heal" (150 base healing at 20)
Feats: (by level)
Two Handed Fighting (1)
Toughness (1)
Extend Spell (3)
Empower Healing (6)
Improved Two Handed Fighting (9)
Improved Critical: Slashing (12)
Greater Two Handed Fighting (15)
Power Attack (18)(Way late, I know)
Enhancements:
Follower of the Sovereign Host (2ap, pre-req)
Unyielding Sovereignty (4ap)
Human Adaptability: Strength (level 5, 2ap)
Improved Human Recovery (1-3, 12ap)
Paladin Bulwark of Good (1-2, 3ap)
Paladin Resistance of Good (1, 1ap)
Paladin Divine Sacrifice (1, 1ap)(Wish I could get more, but not in this build)
Paladin Extra Lay on Hands (1-2, 3ap)
Paladin Extra Smite Evil (1-3, 6ap)
Racial Toughness (1-2, 3ap)
Cleric Prayer of Life (1-3, 6ap)
Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life (1-2, 3ap)
Paladin Devotion (1-3, 6ap)
Paladin Charisma (1-2, 6ap)
Cleric Wisdom (1-2, 6ap)
Paladin Toughness (1-3, 6ap)
Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery (1-4, 10ap)
Skills raised: UMD, Balance, Heal (heal at later levels)
The main focus behind this build was to have the cleric "Heal" spell, while keeping some of the Paladin's Lay on Hands, Smites and Auras, as well as being able to hold his own in Melee Combat, while having the benefit of some of the midgame Cleric Heals and Buffs earlier in the game. This is more a solo build.
By my math, which is likely wrong, "Heal" should heal for a base of 150 at level 20 plus the 50, 30 and 30 percent additions from Empower Healing, Improved Human Recovery and Paladin Devotion, respectively, for a whopping 315 point heal to myself, plus a nice 270 point heal to others, not factoring the 9% critical rate from Cleric Prayer of Life and Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life. This build also sports a 55% increase in effectiveness from Wands and Scrolls.
Thoughts? Questions? Comments? Any input is welcome and appreciated.
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05-01-2010, 01:32 PM #1Community Member
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It's that time again. Cleric/Paladin Build
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05-10-2010, 10:00 PM #2Community Member
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Strikes me as a strange choice of skills. what good does heal do you? As a caster isn't concentration important to be able to cast in combat without quicken spell and without having your spells spoiled? I quite like this idea for a build but my preference would be for an elf for the AP on falchion which works well best with THF and smite. Free raise dead is neat to.
I would consider having a higher wisdom if you could manage it, at least start at 14, but I could be wrong about it but I think some decent extra SP.
Consider taking power attack earlier and THF later.
You could probably safely take toughness later than what you have. I ended up swapping it out on my cleric and at level 8 I still haven't missed it.
Wouldn't the base on heal spell be 110 as it heals for 10/level? Which would bring your forecasts down a bit but would still be good.
I think have to make room for more divine sacrifice as will be main strategy and could synergy with your self healing.
Cleric life magic is better than paladin devotion as you can take it to a higher level if you want to.
I think this will be a hard build to choose enhancements for but I would suggest spreading thin rather than having to have the final in the main enhancement lines that you want.
Well that's my two cents, I hope I don't sound too much like a noob. Good luck with it
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05-10-2010, 10:08 PM #3Community Member
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I just noticed that this is a 28 point build. My opinion is that 28 point builds are great but that there is 5 classes to avoid: paladin, bard, rogue, monk and favoured soul. The reason is that these classes require a higher stat spread making 32 point very important. Easy solution though is to unlock drow at 400 favour for rogue, bard and paladin as drow are great at these three classes depending on the build. (remember to take advantage of high dex, int and cha or at least 2 of the 3) Monk and FvS don't bother me as have to buy/unlock them anyway. Also need drow/32 point build for many multiclass builds imo.
