How Does Rep Work?

[Cyr]

I relieve my stress by logging into DDO and griefing players.

I take this as a statement of fact.

[stainer]

As I said...thread closed and deleted for cause.

I have to say I do think moderating these forums is probably very...trying. Mostly I think they do a fair job. Where they don't, they are probably doing a 'good job' according to the will of their bosses, which is what any good employee should do.

I agree. We all, or most of us, have jobs. We have guidelines we have to follow and people we have to report to. I would assume that Turbine has the same standards. If they don't WB is sure to set them.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I take this as a statement of fact.

Uh oh...I just realized that he knows who my in game characters are

I better not pug for a while /looks around suspicioiusly

Wait... maybe he's not logging into a player account... There did seem to be a few too many epic mobs in that von 1 normal run I did last night....

[Cyr]

Uh oh...I just realized that he knows who my in game characters are

I better not pug for a while /looks around suspicioiusly

Wait... maybe he's not logging into a player account... There did seem to be a few too many epic mobs in that von 1 normal run I did last night....

Nah, I figure he's that guy who always manages to steal the efreet and archer agro and then hides behind the divine in epic dq.

[stainer]

Nah, I figure he's that guy who always manages to steal the efreet and archer agro and then hides behind the divine in epic dq.

If you get a 100 point neg rep hit on that post, I will tell ya who gave it to you.

[Josh]

I relieve my stress by logging into DDO and griefing players.

How is this not inflammatory or trolling?

[stainer]

How is this not inflammatory or trolling?

Because it was said in jest. You are taking it out of context to boot. That could be construed as trolling.

[Cyr]

Okay everyone. We now have it officially.

Turbine mod's do rep people, positive and negative. They remove reputation you give based upon their views and not based upon 'could a reasonable person think this is inflammatory, trolling....'

Remember the moderators are exactly the same people who we as a community depend on to transmit our ideas, criticisms, and concerns to management and development at Turbine.

Do we want them advocating a point of view? Would not this warp the feedback they transmit? Think of Madfloyd and Pale Master for example. It seems pretty hard to believe that if the tenor of the official feedback threads concerning that PrE were transmitted accurately that he could have believed that it was considered a success and had not heard that players thought otherwise.

[stainer]

Remember the moderators are exactly the same people who we as a community depend on to transmit our ideas, criticisms, and concerns to management and development at Turbine.

No. I expect them to keep the forums free from descending into a giant flame war, nothing more. If I need to have my views presented or expressed, I will do that myself. I can do that verbally, through email, or by taking my money elsewhere.

You have a lot of expectations for a position that you do not have access to the actual job description. We get it. You do not like the rep system. For all you know, the mods may not like it either.

[Cyr]

How is this not inflammatory or trolling?

Because all that matters is what Tarrant thinks is inflammatory or trolling Welcome to the DDO forums.

[Vint]

I think I Will be able to sleep tonight knowing I have neg rep. Sure it might be nice to have 10 little green bars but who cares?

I have seen so many people post, making the most ridiculous claims, nerf this, give me a free handout. I just laugh.

P.S. I like pos rep, but if you neg rep this, I will sleep tonight.

P.P.S I Love Beagles

[Cyr]

If I need to have my views presented or expressed, I will do that myself. I can do that verbally, through email, or by taking my money elsewhere.

You can verbally comunicate your views to the managament or developers at Turbine huh?

[Josh]

Because it was said in jest. You are taking it out of context to boot. That could be construed as trolling.

Am I? Things said in jest are often insulting to someone, are they not?

What is in context and not is a judgement call. One person thinks it's funny, one think's it's insulting.

[Josh]

because All That Matters Is What Tarrant Thinks Is Inflammatory Or Trolling Welcome To The Ddo Forums.

+1

[Arkat]

You can verbally comunicate your views to the managament or developers at Turbine huh?

-1

You know what he meant. Quit baiting.

[stainer]

You can verbally comunicate your views to the managament or developers at Turbine huh?

I could be wrong, but I thought they had a customer support number. I double checked, I couldn't find one. I can make my feelings known verbally. I just wouldn't have anyone to listen to them. The other methods are still valid.

[Cyr]

-1

You know what he meant. Quit baiting.

No I most certainly did not. He was listing how he could present his views about the game to those who actually can do something about it. He said verbally. The other two made sense. That one did not. Thanks for telling me what I know though. It is most certainly not appreciated.

[Magusrex777]

I do not find the rep system to be a big deal. I even agree with how Turbine manages it. I have received a lot of negative rep, I have not reported any of it even though I m not sure any of it has ever fallen under rep guidelines. I do not feel the need to complain about it either. If I complain about it to Turbine, maybe they will reverse it and make my little green bigger. YEAH!!!! What will I get by complaining about it on the forums themselves? People will just think I am whining about my little green bar. I would not embarrass myself like that.

I have strong opinions, I like to express them, with that comes some negative rep in this system. I often disagree with an established player-base, I usually get hit hard in big chunks and go up in lots of little ones. It means a few people who have been around along time and have lots of rep do not like some of what I say and a lot of people who do not have a lot of rep hit me more often in the positive. I can live with that.

I am pretty certain I have gotten a few good positive hits from Turbine. These are usually posts where I suggest both sides of an argument have room to behave better. Stop insulting one another and find a way to meet in the middle. If I were a forum manager, I would positive rep that kind of post too, so it makes sense to me that they do it. What I dislike most about forums anywhere is when people label each other and belittle each other, I wish Turbine were more heavy handed and quicker than they are at times with forum moderation and reputation.

[stainer]

Am I? Things said in jest are often insulting to someone, are they not?

What is in context and not is a judgement call. One person thinks it's funny, one think's it's insulting.

When you attempt to make something harmless like this into an issue, you invalidate your argument.

[Cyr]

I could be wrong, but I thought they had a customer support number. I double checked, I couldn't find one. I can make my feelings known verbally. I just wouldn't have anyone to listen to them. The other methods are still valid.

You mean you can express you feelings verbally to a CSA person. Okay somehow I'm not terriblly impressed by that option, but fair enough and now I know what you were talking about at least.