Is 16/2/2 bard/pally/monk Warchanter viable?

[metalworker]

So I've been having a blast with Tukaw's 16/2/2 sorc/pally/rogue build. I originally went 16/2/2 sorc/pally/monk for more feats but I realized that in doing so I lacked the UMD and Intimidate that I wanted for the role.

I am looking forward to this possible build 16/2/2 bard/pally/monk that has huge saves from CHA bonus. Starting stats (32 pt) would most likely be 16STR, 16CON, 14 CHA (dumping WIS and DEX and putting the rest into STR/CON with level ups in STR). Ending CHA should be attainable at 24 easily, giving a +7 boost to saves.

I just want some opinions on whether this version of the warchanter is viable. Compared to the 16/2/2 bard/fighter/rogue builds, you'll notice that you still get 2 class feats from monks, the only difference is trading the rogue skill points and disable traps with a pally's CHA bonus to saves, and perhaps picking up Greatsword weapon focus from the Pally enhancement. All in all, I'm leaning towards a buffer with strong saves + evasion, and I don't give a **** about traps.

This build should have decent UMD (no rogue boost but enough from Bard), huge saves, decent DPS, enough HP as the 16/2/2 bard/fighter/rogue builds.

I've some experience rolling such 16/2/2 pally + CHA-based toons and I'm loving it, just wondering if a bard version is possible.

[Zippo]

I'll just say bards can not be lawful.

[Bacab]

wow you broke new ground.

Usually people want MNK on BRD...
*or*
Paladin on BRD....

You want both!

and neither work.

Bard can not be lawful...

If this was possible...it would rock...but it is not.

15BRD/3ROG/2FTR is a super fun build as is the 16/2/2

[Zippo]

wow you broke new ground.

Usually people want MNK on BRD...
*or*
Paladin on BRD....

You want both!

and neither work.

Bard can not be lawful...

If this was possible...it would rock...but it is not.

15BRD/3ROG/2FTR is a super fun build as is the 16/2/2

I can vouch for the 16/2/2 Bard/Fighter/Rog build. Very fun and destructive.

[metalworker]

lmao. I just went to character creation and failed. Can't be lawful

EPIC PHLAIL!

At least I had the idea!

[Gorbadoc]

Now, I interpreted the question to mean, would a character with 16brd/2pal/2mnk be a viable character? That is, would such a character be a strong contribution to a party, good at killing and surviving, etc.

The answer to that question is yes. Very yes. It would be a seriously badass build. That may be part of the reason why Turbine won't let us build it :-)

[bartosy]

that would be awesome for a virtuoso build where you run into large pack of mobs and enthrall em all and ever save counts towards achieivng that goal.

[Gorbadoc]

It could be the ultimate scout and last-man-standing build. Charisma helps both sides of the job: +saves = better survivability, and +UMD and SP = actually able to do something about it when everyone else is dead, your death ward is dispelled, and you've eaten a bunch of neg levels.

Alas, since this build is not an option, I guess I'll just have to play a warforged instead :-P

[Rav'n]

It would be a seriously badass build. That may be part of the reason why Turbine won't let us build it :-)

It's not Turbine... it's a DnD rule. Monks and Pally's are Lawful Good. Bards have to be either Chaotic or Neutral.

[Gorbadoc]

Right. That is the origin of the rule. I should hope Turbine doesn't retain rules solely out of a sense of nostalgia.