Splash of Fighter, Monk or more Rogue into a Rgr6/Rog1?

[Pikaia]

Hey guys! I know that there have been similar threads to this one in the past, I have read a couple of them. However, I would like to get the communities' current thinking and advice on something.

I have a Rgr6/Rog1 Elf Tempest that is 1 rank away from level 8. I was thinking of splashing in 1 level of either Fighter or Monk, and endgame be 18/1/1 - I can't see any gain at Rgr lvl 19 that looks better than taking another level in another class.

I have thought of the following: 1) add a second level of Rogue, 2) add Fighter lvl 1 or 3) add Monk lvl 1.

With Rogue I get more skill points and I get evasion earlier.
With Fighter I get attack bonus +1, hit d10, two feats (with Ftr. bonus feat) and use of all armor.
With Monk I get +1 to saves, 1 feat and Wisdom bonus to AC if not wearing armor (current wisdom is 18 enhanced).

Well, there is most of my thinking on the matter, what do you guys think?

[Dawnsfire]

Tihocan's new Tempest path is 18/1/1 Rng/Rge/Ftr. It has the fighter level at 6th but it may give you a few ideas. I don't really see a reason to go rogue at 8th. Except for a few extra skill points and evasion that Ranger will give you before long. 1 level of Monk is great for an AC build but that takes a lot of grinding. I think that fighter with the +1 BAB and feat are the way to go.

[Pikaia]

Thanks for the advice and the link, it's really helped. I am leaning toward the Fighter level currently.

[Lleren]

I think get at 9-11 Ranger levels before you add your next class. It sounds like you are going for something close to this build http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=exploiter

Either Fighter or Monk works though honestly. I would just want to get the good stuff from both before adding another class.

9 Ranger gets you Evasion. 11 Ranger gets you Greater Two Weapon fighting.

[unbongwah]

With Fighter I get attack bonus +1, hit d10, two feats (with Ftr. bonus feat) and use of all armor.
With Monk I get +1 to saves, 1 feat and Wisdom bonus to AC if not wearing armor (current wisdom is 18 enhanced).

Looks like you have the gist of both splashes, though ftr 1 only gets you 1 bonus feat, not two. The Exploiter is pretty popular, but you need high DEX & WIS and Combat Expertise (plus beaucoup equipment of course) to really hit high AC.

[Pikaia]

Thanks for the advice guys.

I am wanting to take the toughness feat, which I haven't yet due to getting Tempest 1 and the required feats. Only with monk 1 do I get toughness as a choice. I want this feat so that I can take racial toughness and more hp.

I was thinking maybe taking fighter 1 and taking OTWF as a feat and then maybe spending a later ranger feat on toughness - can I choose toughness as a feat at Rgr 10?

Right now it looks like Monk 1 though; which means I'll soon be fighting in robes - or maybe wearing some "outfit" to get the wisdom bonus to AC as well.

[unbongwah]

If you're going for a fighter splash, I recommend waiting until lvl 9 to take it: that way you can use your fighter feat to take Improved Crit (requires BAB 8 which you won't hit until lvl 9) and take Toughness as your lvl 9 feat.

[Pikaia]

That's interesting, I would like to have both feats, I guess you are saying I could choose Improved Crit as my fighter feat and get Toughness as my level 9 feat available to everyone.

My (main) conundrum is whether or not I can take Toughness as a later ranger feat - I can't tell from the Rgr tables in the wiki or compendium - they don't show the feats you can choose from for ranger - and I don't know what is available at later Rgr levels.

Thoughts anyone?

[unbongwah]

Rangers don't get to choose any feats apart from FEs; the rest are fixed.

[Pikaia]

Sorry about that, I'm being confusing - the Ranger feats are FE, I was confused and meant to ask about regular feats every 3 levels.

What I meant to say or ask was is toughness a level-limited feat, like some feats, where at 9 or 12 or 15 or whatever, I can't take it?

Edit: but I think I'm taking level 8 as Rgr and then lvl 9 as Ftr.

I'll see what I can take for feats then.

[unbongwah]

Yes, you can take Toughness as one of your regular feats. It is also a monk bonus feat.