Is my tank on the right tracks?(see what i did there)

[CrankVulcan]

Alright i just built my first intimitank and i was wonderin how i did....

dwarf fighter(32 pointer)

str-14
dex-16
con-18
int-10
wis-8
chr-10


I was also wondering if the armor penalty reducer enhancements from being a fighter stack with the ones from being a dwarf....

thx in advance

[Quikster]

Alright i just built my first intimitank and i was wonderin how i did....

dwarf fighter(32 pointer)

str-14
dex-16
con-18
int-10
wis-8
chr-10


I was also wondering if the armor penalty reducer enhancements from being a fighter stack with the ones from being a dwarf....

thx in advance

Con looks a little high and str a little low, but ok otherwise.

If you are refering to fighter armor mastery and dwarven armor mastery which increase max dex bonus they do stack. You also get increased max dex bonus for stalwart defender enhancements.

[CaptainPurge]

Con looks a little high and str a little low, but ok otherwise.

If you are refering to fighter armor mastery and dwarven armor mastery which increase max dex bonus they do stack. You also get increased max dex bonus for stalwart defender enhancements.

but are you really looking to build an AC tank? intim? tower shield?

[sephiroth1084]

Alright i just built my first intimitank and i was wonderin how i did....

dwarf fighter(32 pointer)

str-14
dex-16
con-18
int-10
wis-8
chr-10


I was also wondering if the armor penalty reducer enhancements from being a fighter stack with the ones from being a dwarf....

thx in advance

I'd drop the Con to a 16 or even a 14 in order to get Int to a 12 (+1 tome to qualify for Combat Expertise--fairly important on an AC tank). Maybe drop Cha to an 8 as well to bring Str up a little, though not very important.

Are you planning on getting the TWF feats? If not, I'd probably drop Dex to a 14 and increase Str.

[CrankVulcan]

Is it extremely important that i use a tower shield? Is that an absolute must for intimitanks?

[krud]

Is it extremely important that i use a tower shield? Is that an absolute must for intimitanks?

when you are actually intimitanking, it's the best way to achieve high AC on an armored tank, plus the DR it gives is usually better than large shields. What's the downside? -2 to-hit (minor), lowers skills (even less important). With the stalwart defender and/or tower shield mastery enhancements you should still be able fill out max dex bonus. (use mithral tower shields)

I would lower con to 16, and bump str to 16, and put all level ups into str. Don't neglect the offense. You won't be intimitanking all the time, so added dps is always good. I'd also lower dex to 15 and raise int to 12, so you can pick up combat expertise when you get a +1 int tome. If you are going to concentrate on AC, might as well try to pick up every feat that will help. A +5 AC when turtling is always good. A 15 dex will still put you in reach of TWF with a +2 dex tome, if you choose to go that route.

[sephiroth1084]

Is it extremely important that i use a tower shield? Is that an absolute must for intimitanks?

I'm gonna say no. You lose 2 AC and potentially some blocking DR, though Lorrick's shield is a Heavy with the same DR as Levik's (everyone always forgets this).

[Quikster]

I'm gonna say no. You lose 2 AC and potentially some blocking DR, though Lorrick's shield is a Heavy with the same DR as Levik's (everyone always forgets this).

Can get the same ac with less ap with epic shields.

[krud]

I'm gonna say no. You lose 2 AC and potentially some blocking DR, though Lorrick's shield is a Heavy with the same DR as Levik's (everyone always forgets this).

True, but if you are going to build an AC tank, you really should try to pick up everything that will bump AC. Usually, you go for AC or you don't, there isn't much room for partway as these things add up; -2 for heavy shield. -5 no CE, and he's already -7 AC behind his max potential. When he doesn't need max AC, then grab a 2hander or go twf for some dps. When he needs the AC, a -2 to-hit is going to be the least of his concerns.

[sephiroth1084]

True, but if you are going to build an AC tank, you really should try to pick up everything that will bump AC. Usually, you go for AC or you don't, there isn't much room for partway as these things add up; -2 for heavy shield. -5 no CE, and he's already -7 AC behind his max potential. When he doesn't need max AC, then grab a 2hander or go twf for some dps. When he needs the AC, a -2 to-hit is going to be the least of his concerns.

He should be getting CE, which I believe I mentioned, but giving up towers isn't that big a deal, particularly since there is an increasing number of heavy shields that offer +8 AC, leaving you one point shy of tower AC.
(from the Definitive Static yadda yadda yadda). Less DR, but you can swap to Levik's or Lorrik's if you're turtling up, though that won't come up often.

[Edit] In my exhaustion, I think commenting on this thread and another about a pure paladin who wanted to be a tank kind of blended together... While my above statements remain true, why wouldn't a fighter be using a tower shield? The -2 penalty on attack rolls isn't that significant. Get a tower sucka!

[krud]

When you need to go sword and board, what is the objective? It certainly isn't offense, so why not maximize all your defensive capabilities? When you want better offense why bother with a shield at all? pick up a two-hander or dual wield. In those instances where -2 to hit matters so much, you'll also probably want to turn off CE, further lowering AC. If that still provides adequate AC for the task, then putting down the shield altogether for the better dps of a 2hander/twf is probably a better way to go.

Are towers a "must have"? certainly not, but they are still the best option. (as long as the dex limit doesn't get in the way)

[Quikster]

When you need to go sword and board, what is the objective? It certainly isn't offense, so why not maximize all your defensive capabilities? When you want better offense why bother with a shield at all? pick up a two-hander or dual wield. In those instances where -2 to hit matters so much, you'll also probably want to turn off CE, further lowering AC. If that still provides adequate AC for the task, then putting down the shield altogether for the better dps of a 2hander/twf is probably a better way to go.

Are towers a "must have"? certainly not, but they are still the best option. (as long as the dex limit doesn't get in the way)

Yeah if going with levikks you are getting the highest dr, but if your dex is high it starts getting expensive (ap wise) to keep it up using levikks. An epic shiled with +7 enhancement gives the same ac with three less dr i believe. Really depends on your dex bonus and whats available to ya. Im currently using levikks as thats what I have, but plan on using the warding shield as soon as I can get it.