So if this game noobs vs vets?

[Delt]

OP, half the "vets" on the forums are utter noobs in game. As long as you are willing to learn and a decent player, don't worry about what you can't afford or don't know.

[Phidius]

Just had to echo that it's a forum thing... unless you're into strange multiclasses, in which case you'll see it throughout the entire game

[Renvar]

Rhianni,

There are definitely some vets who have played the game for so long and have so much of it memorized that they have a hard time relating to someone for whom the game is new and fresh. They also are often, but not always, very focused on specific goals for their character and like to work efficiently toward that goal.

However, there are bunch of vets who enjoy running quests with new players, explaining things, and being helpful. (Often these are the same players as above, just on a different day or when they are in a different mood).

Lots of vets are very willing to help out new players. For example, I run several clerics. I like to see players have the right potions to be somewhat self sufficient. I will often hand out such potions to new players if they do not have them in quest. PM me your character's name. I'll mail you stacks of some potions and stuff. Always like to help new players. That's how the game grows.

Glad you enjoy the game. Welcome!

[Drekisen]

I'm a vet, but I still learn something new all the time.

Usually when I am partying with people I say nothing, and let the new people figure it out for themselves.

Honestly if they ask a million questions during a quest I'll probably drop, it means they are unwilling to figure things out themself.

The furthest I will usually go into leading a group is walking in front of them while they follow, I usually won't give instruction tho.

[Zippo]

How does one learn without playing and grouping? Sure there are strat guides and wikis but imo that doesnt fully compare with actual playing.

Maybe I am missing something or misunderstanding the veterans stance.

This can pretty much be summed up in one sentence.

If you don't know or are not sure ask.

[Dirac]

Some good stuff, here. I'll highlight a couple things.

1. As long as you don't adopt a newbs vs. vets attitude, you will be fine in the game or even on the forums. There are tons of examples (like this one) of people new to the game, posting honest questions and seriously looking for advice, being flooded with excellent and polite answers, tips, and offers in-game for help, gear, and plat.

2. The game isn't that big. You will start to identify people in-game you like and respect and people on the forums you trust with sound advice (e.g. KingofCheese in this thread). Don't trust every random person who sounds like a vet, many are clueless and faking. Listen to everyone, think for yourself.

[twix]

My suggestion would be not to worry much about consumables untill higher level.By higher level you will have enough money to support yourself and bring up another toon.Also if I were you and was unsure about the price of a particular named item or anything that you feel would bve valuble,I would check Khyber's trade threads for advice.

The key for a nice sum of plat is to loot and sell everything.Farming popular low level loot runs is good too.I suggest you check out xorian cypher in house j when you are ready.I think its level 8.Pulling one of the named items in there will give you a jump start on your cash flow for sure.

As far as noobs vs. vets ? Mostly forum things not related to the majority population.You seem willing to learn and take advice so i couldnt forsee any problems with the experienced players on your sever.

Anyways in not from khyber but good luck on your ddo adventures anyways

[Quikster]

I'm a noob that just started last saturday. I'm having a blast at learning the game, stress on the word learning. Now while I have played 3.0 and 3.5 ruleset for several years there are many differences and lots of things to learn. That brings me to the title.

After having read through the server forum I can't help but see the noobs vs veterans mentality here, primarily from the veterans. Understandable I suppose what with DDO now F2P you are going to get tons of people.
Yet I feel that if I dont have the correct potions, wands, and self sufficiency that I shouldnt even bother grouping as I would just be wasting the time of those that know what they are doing. How does one learn without playing and grouping? Sure there are strat guides and wikis but imo that doesnt fully compare with actual playing.

Maybe I am missing something or misunderstanding the veterans stance.

IMO if i have an lfm up that says byoh, ip, zergfest. Thats what it means. If you join an lfm like that to learn you will be met with some resistance. But if my lfm simply states Tear norm any class. Thats what it means, and I wont expect you to have all your own pots etc.

I dont mind grouping with new people, but when I dont want to, and state so, I get peeved when they get into group.

[DasLurch]

The fact that you are on the forums looking for info elevates you from NOOB to NEWB.

I'll second that

[DasLurch]

Some good stuff, here. I'll highlight a couple things.

1. As long as you don't adopt a newbs vs. vets attitude, you will be fine in the game or even on the forums. There are tons of examples (like this one) of people new to the game, posting honest questions and seriously looking for advice, being flooded with excellent and polite answers, tips, and offers in-game for help, gear, and plat.

2. The game isn't that big. You will start to identify people in-game you like and respect and people on the forums you trust with sound advice (e.g. KingofCheese in this thread). Don't trust every random person who sounds like a vet, many are clueless and faking. Listen to everyone, think for yourself.

This is Khyber. You can not give "tips" like that. Where will the drama come from?!?!? /advice_fail