QuikNdirty.....Another Gimp Intimitank

[ColinQ]

How often do you use S&B mode while not-blocking? (if ever?)

As I find my barb somehow end up with a lot of the gear for AC tank (TOD ring, epic Spec glove, +4 CHA tome, enough stuff to make a suite of red armor), I felt its a lot easier to TR xairs and build/gear up a new WF barb
The dilemma I’m facing is that I want to go THF when in full dps mode (ESOS strongly pull me towards that direction). So debating what should I craft the 4 insight AC on when in S&B mode?
If I never get to use S&B mode for attacking, then I might as well craft a healing amp/ healing amp/4AC dagger

It would also save me 2 feats (KPS and TWD), which I’m considering quickdraw and superior weapon focus (if I ever get tired of defender and decided to go Kensai)

[Quikster]

How often do you use S&B mode while not-blocking? (if ever?)

As I find my barb somehow end up with a lot of the gear for AC tank (TOD ring, epic Spec glove, +4 CHA tome, enough stuff to make a suite of red armor), I felt its a lot easier to TR xairs and build/gear up a new WF barb
The dilemma I’m facing is that I want to go THF when in full dps mode (ESOS strongly pull me towards that direction). So debating what should I craft the 4 insight AC on when in S&B mode?
If I never get to use S&B mode for attacking, then I might as well craft a healing amp/ healing amp/4AC dagger

It would also save me 2 feats (KPS and TWD), which I’m considering quickdraw and superior weapon focus (if I ever get tired of defender and decided to go Kensai)

Amp/amp/4ac aint a bad weapon, i have one that I use for those situations. Id go with something cooler looking then a dagger though. Either a khop, ls, or bastard sword, i like all the skins better then dagger myself.

I never swing with a shield. If I need to put a shield on I block. But not everyone is like that either. I have a high enough ac that putting ce on is like putting a shield on for most builds.

If youre going thf Id prolly craft bastard sword, and get a few of em just in case you decide to swing while s&b.

Cant blame you for going with sos at all

[Macabrius]

I was thinking about this gear:

Intimidate gear:

Googles: GS with +6 exp skill to char
Helm: Epic Helm of Mroranon (+1 exp char)
Neck: Stalwart
Trinket: Epic Brawn's Spirit (+2 luck bonus)
Cloak: GS HP 45 mineral II
Belt: Epic Belt of Mroranon (Blindness Imunity) or (+1 exp to Con)
Ring: Cinders Band (+2 exp to char)
Ring: Chattering Ring
Gloves: Epic Spectral Gloves (+1 exp to Dex)
Braces: Chaosgard
Boots: I have no idea what to put here, any ideas ??
Armor: Epic Vambraces of inner Circle (+1 exp to Str and +2 MDB) or a costumize DT.
Weapon: GS Khopesh +6char, +20% amp and +4 insight AC
Shield: Levik's

DPS:
2x Mineral II
LOTD
Ring of Ravager with +2 exp to Str

Ofc i miss almost all of the epics and a couple of GS but i think this is my goal for gear, i will pass the claw set at least for tanking since the Brawn's Spirit can compensate the +5 intim bonus and at the same time u can add the +2 luck bonus (augment slot) to compensate the HOGF.

With this gear i think i only miss the +5 Resistence bonus, which is bad but i still havet the boost slot free so i might get Temple of Vol boots, i dont know....

Any comments or ideas will be apriciate

Thx, Macabrius

[Quikster]

I was thinking about this gear:

Intimidate gear:

Googles: GS with +6 exp skill to char
Helm: Epic Helm of Mroranon (+1 exp char)
Neck: Stalwart
Trinket: Epic Brawn's Spirit (+2 luck bonus)
Cloak: GS HP 45 mineral II
Belt: Epic Belt of Mroranon (Blindness Imunity) or (+1 exp to Con)
Ring: Cinders Band (+2 exp to char)
Ring: Chattering Ring
Gloves: Epic Spectral Gloves (+1 exp to Dex)
Braces: Chaosgard
Boots: I have no idea what to put here, any ideas ??
Armor: Epic Vambraces of inner Circle (+1 exp to Str and +2 MDB) or a costumize DT.
Weapon: GS Khopesh +6char, +20% amp and +4 insight AC
Shield: Levik's

DPS:
2x Mineral II
LOTD
Ring of Ravager with +2 exp to Str

Ofc i miss almost all of the epics and a couple of GS but i think this is my goal for gear, i will pass the claw set at least for tanking since the Brawn's Spirit can compensate the +5 intim bonus and at the same time u can add the +2 luck bonus (augment slot) to compensate the HOGF.

With this gear i think i only miss the +5 Resistence bonus, which is bad but i still havet the boost slot free so i might get Temple of Vol boots, i dont know....

Any comments or ideas will be apriciate

Thx, Macabrius

Add tharnes to your dps set up. I would also go with shintao over ravanger for the to hit bonus, yes its less dps, but you hit more often. When youre fully geared out you will likely be able to run with the epic claw set over your current ac listing due to your ac being much higher, esp with some decent raid buffs.

+5 on boots is fine.

[Macabrius]

Add tharnes to your dps set up. I would also go with shintao over ravanger for the to hit bonus, yes its less dps, but you hit more often. When youre fully geared out you will likely be able to run with the epic claw set over your current ac listing due to your ac being much higher, esp with some decent raid buffs.

+5 on boots is fine.

Thx for the tips, in fact shintao and tharnes will be a good upgrade to DPS gear.

About the tank gear is stupid the amount of intimidate i will have fully buffed (+90), this can allow me to change some feats and maybe some gear pieces in future even when tanking

Not sure if the new raid boss is tankable but i hope in future they add more challenge intimi DC's for us

Thx, Macabrius

[Quikster]

Thx for the tips, in fact shintao and tharnes will be a good upgrade to DPS gear.

About the tank gear is stupid the amount of intimidate i will have fully buffed (+90), this can allow me to change some feats and maybe some gear pieces in future even when tanking

Not sure if the new raid boss is tankable but i hope in future they add more challenge intimi DC's for us

Thx, Macabrius

Yeah that's some of the idea with gear. Pick up quickdraw and pa if you don't have em, as well as some of the weapon spec feats, maybe umd or toughness if you have any left over.

[RustieSojourn]

I have had many requests to post this build so I have finally gotten around to doing it. This is my third intimidate build. The goal of this build was to make an intimitank that wasnt a total liability to the party in many situations, while still having high enough intimidate to lock all raid bosses on a 1. I believe I have accomplished this goal. This is a X2 reincarnate. I dont plan on posting a guide or 28 point layout. If you only have 28 point builds available I recommend making another build. Getting high ac/intim/moderate DPS is difficult to do.


Quikndirty 36 point human True Neutal Fighter
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Man, I just want to thank you for this post.
I have tweaked your stats for a 32 point build now, on a half-elf.
Your "template" is a great guide to get the basics right, even if you don't have a x2 TR yet.

[Quikster]

Man, I just want to thank you for this post.
I have tweaked your stats for a 32 point build now, on a half-elf.
Your "template" is a great guide to get the basics right, even if you don't have a x2 TR yet.

Glad you found a way to take it and make it your own Have fun intimitanking!

BTW I think h-elf makes a great version of this build. I would consider it if i didnt have so many other alts I want to tr or am currently tring

[RustieSojourn]

Glad you found a way to take it and make it your own Have fun intimitanking!

BTW I think h-elf makes a great version of this build. I would consider it if i didnt have so many other alts I want to tr or am currently tring

The nice part of h-elf is the 2nd cooldown on intimidate, you can -almost- spam it.
I have also had a long hard thought on the racial feat unique to h-elf, dilettante.
I decided since I am buffing Cha, might as well take one that compliments it, so I went with Paladin. It basically gives you 2 points of Cha bonus added to all saves (much like FoP - and it stacks with it.) It also gives you the ability to use wands and scrolls as if you are a lvl1 Pala.

I had to play around with the feats, as you used a few unavailable to a newly rolled non-human character, but all-in-all all I'd say it is very close. My one gimp stat is Constitution, I figured if I have the AC and Intimidate as per your build, might as well keep the healers on their feat. (See what I did there?) :-P

[Trillea]

Quik, how does the epic red armor compare to the epic Cavalry plate from the event that just finished?

[Quikster]

Quik, how does the epic red armor compare to the epic Cavalry plate from the event that just finished?

Without looking, I think the event armor has 1 more dex bonus. My dex is maxed until I get a tome and lotd so I didnt worry about it too much. I have a set on that acct if I decide to go that route though, and if I get the tomes (str or dex) and lotd I may switch.

So the Cavalry plate gets you 1 more dex (so maybe save ap or something or if you can get to +11) superior false life (kinda nice) and temp hitpoints chance.




Edit this is wrong I didnt realize the cavalry plate is mithral so its med armor. Therefore the ac potential is the same as epic redscale.

[SensaiRyu]

Great list - nice and specific.
It makes me think I'll actually be able to reach 79intim on my first-gen h-elf fighter. I'm totally new to intimitanks...

It occurred to me, yesterday, that Human Versatility IV adds +5 skills. With it I should be able to reach 73 intim with regular equips and buffs. Going thru your list makes me feel better about what I can expect with better equips - Thanks!

[Quikster]

Great list - nice and specific.
It makes me think I'll actually be able to reach 79intim on my first-gen h-elf fighter. I'm totally new to intimitanks...

It occurred to me, yesterday, that Human Versatility IV adds +5 skills. With it I should be able to reach 73 intim with regular equips and buffs. Going thru your list makes me feel better about what I can expect with better equips - Thanks!

No worries. I like breaking builds down like this, and I do for every tr life. I dont post em all here usually, but they all get posted to my guild forums so i can reference quickly when leveling etc.


1 think to note is hv has a cooldown, so if you are needing it to intimidate 100% and a group is relying on you, youre going to miss now and again. Usually not a huge deal, just something to be aware of.

[Macabrius]

any new toughts about the u9 intimidate ?? Do u think this build should work ?

Thx, Macabrius

[Maxson]

Hi there, I've been looking at this with interest (I'm getting close to 20 on my reincarnated toon). I'm considering this but being a half elf with paladin dilettante, swapping 1 charisma for 1 starting int and taking toughness where Quik has taken his dragonmark (instead of as the human bonus feat), with enhancements, this will give me better saves (without enhancements, roughly the same will save, better saves across the board), and easy access to wands earlier in the game. I would lose out on adaptability: constitution, but gain access to elven dexterity and dilettante charisma

Oh, can somebody tell me where the stat increases go on this? I'm assuming at least 1 in dex and a +2 dex tome for GTWF.

Does anyone have any advice or notice anythign glaringly stupid about this plan?

edit: until I got hold of epic red, I would likely be using parasitic breastplate so I wouldn't need as much max dex bonus and would therefore have more enhancements to throw around.

edit edit: I'm also pretty interested in doing THF instead of TWF and using bastard swords when S&B, I know people have gone over this a bit already but how big a hit is that necessarily taking? at two TRs I'd rather be pretty positive what I'm doing.

[Quikster]

any new toughts about the u9 intimidate ?? Do u think this build should work ?

Thx, Macabrius

It works fine. SD has a decent amount of hate. You can add some as well by getting the first two tiers of dt armor with hate, and adding the claw set. Obviously this is dependent on your gear layout and may cost a couple points of ac. This is what I would recommend to use if having problems holding agro. You can experiment as well and try just the dt or just the claw set (epic). This prolly wont be necessary all the time but when having issues holding agro it helps. I would drop a feat (pick one that you can live without) and add quickdraw as well.

I was twf most things and only using intim on things like hound/dq anywho. Most things I held with hate.

Hi there, I've been looking at this with interest (I'm getting close to 20 on my reincarnated toon). I'm considering this but being a half elf with paladin dilettante, swapping 1 charisma for 1 starting int and taking toughness where Quik has taken his dragonmark (instead of as the human bonus feat), with enhancements, this will give me better saves (without enhancements, roughly the same will save, better saves across the board), and easy access to wands earlier in the game. I would lose out on adaptability: constitution, but gain access to elven dexterity and dilettante charisma

Oh, can somebody tell me where the stat increases go on this? I'm assuming at least 1 in dex and a +2 dex tome for GTWF.

Does anyone have any advice or notice anythign glaringly stupid about this plan?

edit: until I got hold of epic red, I would likely be using parasitic breastplate so I wouldn't need as much max dex bonus and would therefore have more enhancements to throw around.

edit edit: I'm also pretty interested in doing THF instead of TWF and using bastard swords when S&B, I know people have gone over this a bit already but how big a hit is that necessarily taking? at two TRs I'd rather be pretty positive what I'm doing.

THF is fine. Just figure out how much dex you need to fill out your armor and go with that. Spread any extra points around as you can (str/con/cha)

As far as s&b/glancing blows. Havent experimented with this on a fighter. I have on a dwarven paly but hate is a bit different between the two classes. If you get your ac high enough, you can stay thf most of the time. I would think the shield feats would add good synergy if you went this route however.

Never played with paly dille, have monk dille on a clr build though. Helf is a solid class and you should be fine going that route.


Level ups all in str. I started with 16 dex, so only a +1 is needed for gtwf. My dex started at 16 to fill out the armor however not to take gtwf (if just needed for twf I would start at 15 and take +2 tome)

[RustieSojourn]

Love this thread.