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    Question AC of GOD

    Hypothetically, what's the highest AC someone could possibly get? The point where it's imposable to go any higher. The point where, even though you're a complete abomination that's overspecialized like a guy trying to play a cleric like he was in WOW, you can just stand there, untouchable by anything except a natural 20.

    Would it be a dwarf fighter battling a giant? A halfling monk with the dexterity of a god?

    Or a rogue that's good enough to never get anything ****ed off at him?

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    highest with screenshot i could find if i want is 106 though i remember seeing a 121 too
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    I'm curious as well.

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    There are multiple threads for this, even recent ones. Search forums '"Maximum AC".

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    Something along these lines

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    1monk/8rog/11fgt halfling
    1 monk = Wis ac + water stance
    8 rogue = imp uncanny dodge, and dex enhacnements
    11 fgt = Fighter mobility & Defender & ac boost
    
    weapons minII or waterx3(*/wis/ac4 + LSII or radianceII (*/dex/dex)
    
    AC Breakdown
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    10 base
    18 dex mod (47 Dex: 20 base + 5 levels + 4 tome + 4 enh + 6 item + 3 exceptional + 1 LotD +2 Yugoloth potion +2 Store potion)
    13 Wis mod (37 Wis: 17 base + 6 item + 4 tome + 1 LotD+1 exceptional +2 exceptional (ring) +2 water stance +2 Yugoloth potion +2 store potion)
    4 Icy Raiments 
    3 Chattering ring
    1 AC Ritual
    1 Dodge Feat
    8 AC bracers
    5 Deflection
    5 CE
    4 Insight
    1 TW defense feat
    1 size bonus
    ----------------
    Unbuffed - 74
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    4 Shield spell
    3 Barkskin potion
    1 Haste
    1 Airguard haste
    ----------------
    Self buffed - 83
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    3 halfling heroes companion
    4 bard song
    6 Pally aura (DoS rank 3 paladin)
    2 Recitation
    2 Ranger Barkskin
    2 Defensive Stance
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    Raid Buffed - 102
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    3 Blocking (+1 for defender I)
    4 Mobility (while tumbling)
    6 ftr mobility (while tumbling)
    2 Water stance (while tumbling)
    5 Fighter AC boost III
    6 Imp. Uncanny Dodge
    2 Wisdom (+3 alchemical =38)
    4 Dexterity (+4 Showtime +3 alchemical =52) 
    ----------------
    Situational max possible AC - 134
    
    
    
    Or dwarf vs giants
    -2 dex (-2 racial dex, -2 racial enh)
    -1 size bonus
    +7 vs giants(4 + 3 enhancements)
    ----------------
    138 dwarf
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    What would the intim and BAB be of this build? It's very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Chonas View Post
    What would the intim and BAB be of this build? It's very interesting.
    bab:
    1monk=0
    8rogue=6
    11fighter=11
    so 17

    and intimi can be maxed
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    Yuck, wouldn't be very effective for hitting anything in epic.

    Anyone played something similar or exactly the same to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Chonas View Post
    Yuck, wouldn't be very effective for hitting anything in epic.

    Anyone played something similar or exactly the same to this?
    AC builds are never effective in epic. It's by design.

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    God's AC can only be hit on a Natural 21 on a d20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    AC builds are never effective in epic. It's by design.
    Indeed pure AC builds are not good in epic. It can only be by design and poor one IMO as it unbalances the build equations towards pure dps > anything else again. AC builds never invalidated dps builds in end game content before, so not sure why the developers thought they would in epic.
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    If this ac were on an improved evasion monk, then it should be able to tank on Epic Velah (thus preventing those darn cometfalls). IF we were trying to find relevance for AC.

    This character would do well in SOS, TOD, Hound, and Reaver it would seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    Or dwarf vs giants
    -2 dex (-2 racial dex, -2 racial enh)
    -1 size bonus
    +7 vs giants(4 + 3 enhancements)
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    138 dwarf
    HA! I knew that the best ac someone could get would be a dwarf vs giant.
    Now I shall make this abomination, flip off a giant, and stand there laughing as he futilely tries to hit me... and then die when he gets a 20.

    the only thing that i could think of that would be better at not getting hit is a rogue that's good enough to never get anything ****ed off at him.


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    God's AC can only be hit on a Natural 21 on a d20.

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    The giant doesn't need to roll a 20 to hit you anymore, he just needs to graze you to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    AC builds are never effective in epic. It's by design.
    You'd be a pretty smart player if you could extract your head from your barbarian's ass.

    Your quoted statement is utterly false. When you actually build a character with more than 17 AC, come back and talk. Otherwise, stay in the barbarian forums. You spreading misinformation is worse than the newbs doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    You'd be a pretty smart player if you could extract your head from your barbarian's ass.

    Your quoted statement is utterly false. When you actually build a character with more than 17 AC, come back and talk. Otherwise, stay in the barbarian forums. You spreading misinformation is worse than the newbs doing it.
    Didn't seem to be any difference in getting hit between my 85AC monk vs my 20AC barb in epic desert content. Seems they hit the monk 95% of the time, like the 85AC didnt matter.

    I've been thinking about TRing my monk and dumping AC entirely. Does anyone have evidence to show that AC matters on epic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    You'd be a pretty smart player if you could extract your head from your barbarian's ass.

    Your quoted statement is utterly false. When you actually build a character with more than 17 AC, come back and talk. Otherwise, stay in the barbarian forums. You spreading misinformation is worse than the newbs doing it.

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    I would like to see proof of this as well. Screen shot it or it didn't happen.

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    I have another question...what is the highest possible AC u need in this game without it being overkill. Isn't 100+ AC a waste?

    And even with an AC of 100+ ur still going to be hit on a narural 20, even tho it won't be critical damage...i.e. u'll most likely have heavy fort on or the mob would never be able to confirm the crit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phidius View Post
    God's AC can only be hit on a Natural 21 on a d20.
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    (Combat): You attempt to hit Chuck Norris 20: Miss
    (Combat): Chuck Norris attempts to hit you 1: Critical Hit

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