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    I'm new to wizard and I have some questions? I plan on making a human wizard but I don't know what stats I should start with, what spells I should get, and what feats I should get. Any other advice is appreciated too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalpants63 View Post
    I'm new to wizard and I have some questions? I plan on making a human wizard but I don't know what stats I should start with, what spells I should get, and what feats I should get. Any other advice is appreciated too.
    Thanks.
    At least:
    18 int
    14 con
    14 str

    The rest wherever you want it.

    As a wizard, you'll have all the metamagic feats you want. The normal ones include:
    maximize
    empower
    extend
    heighten
    quicken

    Other feats to strongly consider:
    toughness
    insightful reflexes
    more toughness

    As for spells, you'll be able to memorize all of them, so which you use is situational. However, the low level ones that you will use frequently are:
    haste
    web
    resist energy
    scorching ray
    haste
    niac's cold ray
    shield
    haste
    blur
    magic missile
    haste
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    Why such high strength? What about enschew material?

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    After Int/Con none of your stats do anything, STR can help you beat on disabled mobs a bit. Eschew Materials is completely worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxeM View Post
    After Int/Con none of your stats do anything, STR can help you beat on disabled mobs a bit. Eschew Materials is completely worthless.
    Actually, I put the str up there so that you can carry any armor you loot until you sell it. This way, you don't need to worry about a +6 str item like the +6 con item you're going to have.

    And Eschew Materials, while not completely useless, is pretty close to it. And it's not one of the standard metas that people take, hence the reason it wasn't included in the "normal ones." Material components are cheap and plentiful. You should have no problem (after lvl 1) having the money needed to keep well more than you need.
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    Pwesiela is correct.

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    Is it better to dump the rest in wisdom or dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalpants63 View Post
    Is it better to dump the rest in wisdom or dex?
    I would say WIS over DEX, but I prefer Max INT, Max CON (i.e. as high as you can take it), rest in STR. Not for hitting things and not for carrying things, but as a buffer against debuffs. If you ever get debuffed to 0 STR, you will be rendered helpless (can't do anything except run/jump around slowly/badly).

    If not going for STR, I'd take WIS over DEX. WIS will increase your Will Save. DEX only matter for AC (a wizards is pretty meaningless anyways) and Reflex save, but Insightful Reflexes takes care of that.

    Featwise, you could also consider the Spell Penetration feats, especially if you are planning to land CC and insta-death at high levels.

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    Should I dump any into dex to get at least +0 bonus or all in the Wis? Currently it's 14 str, 14 con, 18 int, 12 wis, and 8 for the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalpants63 View Post
    Should I dump any into dex to get at least +0 bonus or all in the Wis? Currently it's 14 str, 14 con, 18 int, 12 wis, and 8 for the others.
    Honestly, I think these are fine starting stats. If you really want dex, you can mem the cats grace spell if you don't have an item.
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    Pwesiela is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalpants63 View Post
    Should I dump any into dex to get at least +0 bonus or all in the Wis? Currently it's 14 str, 14 con, 18 int, 12 wis, and 8 for the others.
    For 28-point build, I would go for either:
    Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha
    08 08 14 18 08 14 (preferred)
    08 08 16 18 08 10

    It would be much better if you could buy 32-point build and start with:
    08 08 16 18 08 14

    for the stats:
    • Str: Str 12 is for avoid helpless when hit by ray of enfeeblement. Str 14 is needed for weight. but it is much better to start with 8 and use a Str 6 item. As a new player, you will have plenty of free gear slots for a Str +6 item.
    • Wiz should always take insightful reflex and make Dex a dump stats.
    • Con: any class should get a Con/HP as high as possible. For a non-WF casters, you will need UMD for heal scroll so you won't have enough ability points to maximize Con. A 14 or 16 is optimal imho.
    • Int: always max it out as it is the primary stats.
    • Wis: Wisdom is for will save only and it is not completely useless. Caster are naturally higher in will save and it isn't worthwhile to invest ability points in it.
    • Cha: cha is for UMD to use heal scroll in end game. WF doesn't need it as they can self reconstruct, but for fleshy caster (both wiz and sorc), you have to be able to use heal scroll to be self-sufficient and survivable. This is a major factor that make you a good caster. Cha/UMD won't help you in early game, and you should aim at getting 39 in end game. You may reference to my old post about getting UMD.
    Before you can use heal scroll and CSW wands, buy enough CSW pots. Don't just standing there to wait for your cleric to heal you when your HP is low.
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