EOI: 10 barb, 1 caster, 1 cleric Shroud

[MeliCat]

Aussie i love your bard... and your monk kicks a$$

But the point at stake here is cleric and barbarian love....

I guess the Shroud is an iconic way of saying that barbs can rage it to the max and a good cleric will not be at all phased by healing and decursing them all.

Solo?

11 barbarians?

But that crystal in part 2?

[Boldrin]

Boldrin..that monk shroud was far from smooth and nearly every character was severely under-equipped and ill prepared, as I remember correctly the only reason we even completed is because You and myself at times were ranging the boss. I can only imagine 12 frenzy barbs having to stop dpsing all the time to chug pots, let the barbs have there cake and eat it too.


And for the record I support bard>clr

I agree, people severely underestimated the lack of buffs and heals.. You and I were about the only ones worth anything at the end, but we did get it done, cap was 16 not 20 and we didn't have half the good equipment that is out now.. So you're telling me a group of 12 underequipped lvl 16 monks> 12 fully equipped lvl 20 barbs?? lol

[Danmor]

Heh, I guess 11 barbs would be much more fun. If you need a FvS/Cleric, I'd be willing to try healing the raging toasters.

As to barb-cleric hate: I don't like how many barbs see themselves as the be-all end-all melee dps. There are other options too, which often tend to go easier on the healer.
/derail

[MeliCat]

Heh, I guess 11 barbs would be much more fun. If you need a FvS/Cleric, I'd be willing to try healing the raging toasters.

As to barb-cleric hate: I don't like how many barbs see themselves as the be-all end-all melee dps. There are other options too, which often tend to go easier on the healer.
/derail

Nup. Cleric only.

I don't think that barbs see themselves as the be all and end all at all! It's just another character that is fun to play. It's a particular way of playing.

I just don't understand all the barb hate.

And I don't understand the cleric dissing.

Competent players for both classes should not find this as issue as I understand it.


Now would someone guessitimate what it would take to take down that crystal at the end of part 2? leave all barbs at prep point, cleric goes casts BB on crystal and calls for the 4 takedowns so BB does the work? Or do you peel off barbs to do dedicated range dmg which I don't think would be fast enough?

And of course this assumes that all people playing know how to do their puzzle (or use a solver) as there will be no opening of doors.

[KingOfCheese]

We did this run a couple months back (1 fs, 1 caster, 10 barbs). Very fun. You won't believe how quickly those barbarians rip things apart. 17 minute run fighting the lag.

[sirgog]

Get solid, non-WF barbs all with 20% Healing Amp or better, and I'll heal it on elite.

Barb requirements:

1) Min 2 or Holy Silver of Bane or better Harry beater (it's Elite, so put that epic SoS away, he has DR of 60)
2) Must be 700+ hp sustainably in part 4 if Frenzy (650 acceptable for non-Frenzy, if anyone still has a crit rage build)
3) Must be able to hit Arraetrikos on Elite with a roll of 2 (requires a raged +49 To-Hit with Power Attack for non-twitch melees, or +53 if twitching without Spring Attack). You can assume that you'll have Recitation all the time (and GH if you can provide your own).
4) Between items, racial modifiers and enhancements, must have +20% or better total Healing Amp. (With their racial -50%, this is *extremely* difficult for WF to obtain, WF's that can achieve this are welcome if any exist)
5) Must carry own Rage and Haste potions
6) Must be willing to avoid blades in part 4 (this is not negotiable in pass 1).

- in short, you must be survivable, easy to heal and able to pull your weight in a 2 pass Elite part 4 that doesn't fight through blades.

Caster requirements:

1) Must be able to solo either elemental on Elite. You can assume all desired divine buffs.
2) Must be able to survive an Elite Delayed Blast Fireball to the face. (Fire Shield from SP or clickies, plus Protection from Fire, is enough for all but the squishiest casters).
3) Must have a high DC Wail for the gnolls.
4) Must have an optimized, or close to it, Polar Ray (Superior Glaciation 8 or, better, Superior Freeze 8).

[Saaluta]

lol, max/emp cometfall takes out all crystals all the time

Saal

And I would be glad to solo heal this Melli(or bring my barb)

Saal

[Ghaldar]

Alternatively you could have one bardbarian to do that.

Like mine. Or I volenteer to heal it. Or my other spellsinger could heal it and we go 11 barbs. Khyber method might not be best for this makeup though...Argo or just spread and beat to complete

[PowerOfRaistlin]

we dont hate barbarians, we just don't like the wf ones that don't bother with heal amp . when our heals are neutered to your inability to burn a few ap, we get testy

[Ghaldar]

we dont hate barbarians, we just don't like the wf ones that don't bother with heal amp . when our heals are neutered to your inability to burn a few ap, we get testy

Hows your scroll mastery AP? are they up to snuff?

[Boldrin]

Hows your scroll mastery AP? are they up to snuff?

Lol, who uses scrolls??

[Hasteclicky]

However if I remember the qualifier was simply to have a monk icon in our run, correct? Most were pure, a few were not. I figure the barb splashes could qualify the same way. We had no bard and the splashes scroll healed for the recovery. All class run is an all class run. Isn't this to prove how self sufficient the barbs are now?

[Onesikpup]

neither my barb nor clerics are lvl 20, but they are well enough equipped to run this on elite...easily. Id bring either one for ya.

[MeliCat]

lol, max/emp cometfall takes out all crystals all the time

Saal

And I would be glad to solo heal this Melli(or bring my barb)

Saal

ah of course! ( you can tell i don't do enough offensive casting on my cleric....)



toof you'd be very welcome as i know you are probably better equipped for smackdowns than my lvl 20 barb....(2nd TRing it atm aren't you?)

this is entirely doable 11 barbs and 1 cleric.... *must* be cleric...

[MeliCat]

we dont hate barbarians, we just don't like the wf ones that don't bother with heal amp . when our heals are neutered to your inability to burn a few ap, we get testy

no offense but I don't think the cleric should care after they get the heal spell.

[sirgog]

no offense but I don't think the cleric should care after they get the heal spell.

Yes you should.

Empowered Mass Heal (caster level 20, no epic items that boost it) heals for 420. 504 with common healing amp items.

WF without Healer's Friend or any healing amp get healed for 210.

Harry on Elite can't deal 504 damage per Mass Heal cooldown, but on Normal he can deal more than 210.

[Ghaldar]

Lol, who uses scrolls??

Well I know some who don't even use shrines...they just store manapot up but that is another discussion.

But my comment was to make a point about attitude and telling people they better have a certain AP.

[sirgog]

Well I know some who don't even use shrines...they just store manapot up but that is another discussion.

But my comment was to make a point about attitude and telling people they better have a certain AP.

Boldrin uses AH mana pots, he's probably the server's wealthiest player.

I can has bailout?

[Ghaldar]

Boldrin uses AH mana pots, he's probably the server's wealthiest player.

I can has bailout?

I know who Boldrin is and his WoP pulling ways from the prenerf and his vacation. I am aware of his horde

[Boldrin]

Boldrin uses AH mana pots, he's probably the server's wealthiest player.

I can has bailout?

Not any more I'm not, when I left, I gave away probably close to a billion plat in items, ingreds, and plat, lol. Now I'm just a po' boy.