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    Default 18/2: Drow Monk or Rogue Human?

    It's almost time for me to True Rez my multiclass Ranger and I'm debating these two builds:

    18 Pally / 2 Monk Drow?
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    18 Pally / 2 Rogue Human?
    or
    18 Pally / 2 Monk Human?

    It might be splitting hairs but I haven't come up with a soild reason why one is overall better than the other. Both builds have their strengths, Monk has the saves and 1 extra feat over the human/rogue but the human rogue can have massive UMD and other skills (like balance) and comparable CHA to the drow.

    Debate these two builds if you can, requirements are Khopesh with TWF, power attack, the usual toughness, toss extend in there. I want this guy to be big time end game Pally DPS. I'd like to see arguments for both before I make my decision. Holla!

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    If your goal is DPS with survaibility, then i think rogue is better, because umd mainly, the extra feat you get from monk will not give you much, i think monk is better if you have some specific use for the extra feats (could be 2 feats if you go monk human), usually those feats would be used for some tanking feats, or maybe self healing...
    Now, if your goal is just dps, then pure paladin will be better than any splash, but i guess you want evasion.

    So, benefits from rogue: Full umd, rogue haste boost, 1d6+3 sneak attack
    Benefits from monk: 2 feats (assuming same race), wis to AC, a little higher base saves.

    The saves you dont really need, the wis ac and extra feats as i said, are just worthy in some specific builds, that usually dont thrive for dps as its your case.

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    If you really want "big time end game Pally DPS," then stick with pure paladin. Splashing a paladin is about sacrificing DPS for added versatility or survivability, IMHO.

    As for race, I would lean human for the extra feat & higher CON on a khopesh build. Though the drow does have a slightly easier time of hitting the DEX & CHA required for ITWF and Divine Might 3/4, respectively.

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    Sacrificing the Pally Capstone for Evasion and versatility is worth it IMO so my mind is set on that. For feats I'm thinking these are the base:

    Khopesh, 3 TWF'ings, Power Attack, Imp Crit, Extend, Toughness
    -These feats are the base if going Human 2 Monk
    -If Drow 2 Monk I can add 1 feat: Maximize or OTWF
    -If Human 2 Monk I can add 2 feats: Maximize and OTWF (or something else, those look good at the moment)

    Stats are something like:
    16 STR
    14 DEX (assuming I get a +3 DEX tome from Shroud completions, 15 if not
    16 CHA
    12 or 14 CON

    No need for WIS or INT to be higher than 10 each, this will not be an AC focused build.

    UMD on the Rogue Version can hit a ~37 UMD easy, Monk version hits a ~26 UMD. I wonder if the ability to whip out a Heal Scroll over-powers the Maximize feat for cure serious wounds. Decisions Decisions.
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