The Archon v2 (12Fighter/6Barb/2Rogue)

[Monkey_Archer]

The Archon v2.0
Now new and improved for epic content

Warforged 12Fighter/6Barb/2Rogue

Stats:
Str: 18 (62)+5 level +3fighter +3tome +1litany +7item +3 exeptional +8powersurge +6barb rage +4madstone +2rage +2 frenzy
Dex: 12 (22) +3tome +1litany +6item
Con: 16 (30) +3tome +1litany +2WF +2Barb +6item
Int: 8 (10) +2 tome
wis: 12 (22) +3 tome +1litany +6 item
cha: 6 (16) +3tome +1litany +6item

Note: If taking force of personality start with 6 wisdom, 12 charisma instead

Level progression and Feats:
1-Rogue-Toughness
2-Fighter-THF
3-Fighter-Stunning Blow, Weapon Focus Slashing
4-Fighter
5-Fighter-Weapon Specialization Slashing
6-Fighter-Power Attack
7-Fighter-ITHF
8-Fighter
9-Fighter-Weapon Focus Blunt, Improved Crit range Slashing
10-Rogue
11-Fighter
12-Fighter-GTHF, Weapon Specialization Blunt
13-Fighter
14-Fighter-Greater Weapon Specialization Slashing
15-Barbarian- Greater Weapon Specialization Blunt (or force of personality)
16-Barbarian
17-Barbarian
18-Barbarian-Cleave
19-Barbarian
20-Barbarian

Skills:
Max UMD
Max intimidate
Various other skills for 1st rogue level
Remaining points into jump

HP:
204 Base
+20 Heroic
+10 Draconic
+30 GFL
+200 Con
+20 Minos
+22 Toughness
+40 Enhancements
+45 Greensteel
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591
60 Barb rage
40 Madstone x1
40 Yugoloth Pot
20 Rage spell
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751 buffed

AC Dumped


Enhancements:
I dont list enhancments since I am always changing them depending on gear/tomes/etc..
All Kensai/FB prereqs assumed, max str (to an even number), stunning blow/ WF tactics. Kensai Weapon: Maul (swap to greatsword)

[valorik]

what this build needs is the abilty to be off timer for epic von more.

and a mic.

[BlackSteel]

combination works alot better if you take the barbarian past life feat (if able)

[DuffBeer88]

why did u trade falchion for greatsword?

[DethTrip]

I love it when people list a pile of +3 tomes, a litany, a +7 item, and madstone like these are common, easy to acquire items that most everyone has just hangin out in their bank. Funny.

[Consumer]

I love it when people list a pile of +3 tomes, a litany, a +7 item, and madstone like these are common, easy to acquire items that most everyone has just hangin out in their bank. Funny.

I love it when people post comments like this without having any idea who the OP is.

High level gear is listed because we do not design builds to be mediocre, we design them to be best they can be to see what the builds potential is compared to others. If everyone was happy just having min IIs, a +2 tome and a shroud HP item there would be no reason to include epic content or ToD.

[tc12]

I have a Dwarf pure F Kensai currently parked at 17th that I was considering doing some lesser reincarnates on to go 12/6/2 like this. I like frenzy a lot having briefly tried a /6 Barb splash on another character. But I couldn't decide whether the DPS boost from Frenzy > losing Kensai III and the Capstone.

At first I thought the extra HP would be nice too, but then I realized with 4 additional F feats @F20 a few toughnesses would get the Fighter 20 up to the same HP as the 12/6/2 even when raged. And of course the evasion/UMD are very nice too, but I still want to know the numbers on the DPS side alone before considering versatility issues.

So any numerical backing for Kensai II / Frenzy I vs Kensai III with Capstone? Love to see something that would help to get me off the fence and cap my 2H Dwarf.

Thanks

TC

[Talesin]

Out of curiousity... would you recommend getting the barbarian levels first if you TR'd a Barbarian into this?

[DethTrip]

I love it when people post comments like this without having any idea who the OP is.

High level gear is listed because we do not design builds to be mediocre, we design them to be best they can be to see what the builds potential is compared to others. If everyone was happy just having min IIs, a +2 tome and a shroud HP item there would be no reason to include epic content or ToD.

Why would I need to know who the OP is?

How many people do you know that have 5 +3 tomes at their disposal? That was the point I was making. Most people don't. I saw a few builds lately with +4 tomes listed across the board. That was even funnier. Just saying keep the numbers realistic. Show what is fairly easily obtainable, like +2 tomes, etc... and then list what you would be shooting for. If its a "you need +3 tomes and leet gear for this build or don't even try it" type of build, that should be stated. I also don't think this would be a mediocre build with +2 tomes and shroud gear.

[Azuarc]

Why is this build called "archon?" I was expecting to see something with cleric levels...

[stormarcher]

I love it when people list a pile of +3 tomes, a litany, a +7 item, and madstone like these are common, easy to acquire items that most everyone has just hangin out in their bank. Funny.

lol.

If you have been playing as long as the OP has 2+years you will acquire this gear.


If you are in a good guild who does all guild runs or alliance runs and an item drops and you need it, it SHOULD be passed to you.

goodfriends=goodgear

[dormetheus]

Yeah. This build is specifically, specifically built for stunning in epics, thus it's fair to assume the high level gear.

I don't know why you dump your dex for wis instead of going TWF, though. You get double the chance to stun.

Besides, you want your reflex save for that evasion, don't you?

[Anthios888]

Why would I need to know who the OP is?

How many people do you know that have 5 +3 tomes at their disposal? That was the point I was making. Most people don't. I saw a few builds lately with +4 tomes listed across the board. That was even funnier. Just saying keep the numbers realistic. Show what is fairly easily obtainable, like +2 tomes, etc... and then list what you would be shooting for. If its a "you need +3 tomes and leet gear for this build or don't even try it" type of build, that should be stated. I also don't think this would be a mediocre build with +2 tomes and shroud gear.

Maybe if you can't figure out how to subtract 1 from the stats for the gear you can't get... that you can't figure out how to play the character anyway?

Every build is going to be customized by the person playing it. This character is a bare bones template, not a full build. It shows a sketch and gives us an idea of the potentials -- it's up to the maker to bring it to life. And, it so happens, that it is an excellent template for a melee that can heal, stun, and tank.

[DethTrip]

Maybe if you can't figure out how to subtract 1 from the stats for the gear you can't get... that you can't figure out how to play the character anyway?

Every build is going to be customized by the person playing it. This character is a bare bones template, not a full build. It shows a sketch and gives us an idea of the potentials -- it's up to the maker to bring it to life. And, it so happens, that it is an excellent template for a melee that can heal, stun, and tank.

Fair enough. It's geared towards top end players so they will have the stack of +3 tomes and gear listed most likely.

I agree its a nice build. Never doubted that.

[Aranticus]

Why would I need to know who the OP is?

How many people do you know that have 5 +3 tomes at their disposal? That was the point I was making. Most people don't. I saw a few builds lately with +4 tomes listed across the board. That was even funnier. Just saying keep the numbers realistic. Show what is fairly easily obtainable, like +2 tomes, etc... and then list what you would be shooting for. If its a "you need +3 tomes and leet gear for this build or don't even try it" type of build, that should be stated. I also don't think this would be a mediocre build with +2 tomes and shroud gear.

not all builds are built for "starters", a lot of builds are built with the "optimal" in mind

ps: i have 6 toons each taken 6 +3 tomes, i deleted 2 toons with 10 tomes between them. each new toon i make, they eat a full set of +2s at L7

[Anthios888]

not all builds are built for "starters", a lot of builds are built with the "optimal" in mind

Yet, this build does not "need" a single +1 tome, let alone a full set of +3. A builder has but to subtract for the tomes they're not going to use ...

[Aranticus]

Yet, this build does not "need" a single +1 tome, let alone a full set of +3. A builder has but to subtract for the tomes they're not going to use ...

i agree but the point still remains, if you have to put up every single condition, new players will not make it past the stat and gear

[Dark-Star]

If you are really worried about it, use a +2 tome and make up the difference with +1 from the ship, you get to the same place as the OP.

[Gunga]

Maybe if you can't figure out how to subtract 1 from the stats for the gear you can't get... that you can't figure out how to play the character anyway?

I've told you that I love you, right?

In front of other people, too.

[Stealthbr]

Quick questions here just to clarify:
How many rages do you have and how long does each last?
How many power surges do you have?
Finally, do you often see yourself running out of those temporary boosts in quests?
Thank you for your time.