OMG Drama Time

[Kyrn]

Just to make sure I get my side of the story out, since I'm unguilded.

Just a few minutes ago, someone from guild "Alpha" tried to join my group. I had set the level range as 13-15, for Prisoner of the Plains. This person was level 12, and hereforth will be called XXX.

No tells came forth, so I just declined.

Said person then asks "why did you decline me", and tries to join again.

I replied: "If you try to koin outside my requested level range without asking in advance, I'm ignoring you." (spelling errors included), and drop again.

To continue, copy-pasted text including any spelling and grammer errors:

XXX replies: whatever i do that all the time and that is no reason the be rude like that i have done that quest at lvl 11 b4 it isnt a problem
XXX replies: and being rude like that wont get you anywhere
XXX tries to join.
I reply: Which is more rude: saying I'm rude because I dropped you for joing outside my requested range? ot thinking I should just allow anyone outside my requested level range without even asking?
I reply: The very least you could do is ask.
An error occurred while sending this message. XXX may no longer be online. Error code: 152
I decline XXX joining of party.
XXX reply: well yes you are because i know i can handle the quest and the fact that you just declioned without saying he you didnt ask if its ok when you could just take the invite and say he i would of rather you ask than just click it so whatever you th
XXX tries to join party.
I reply: Tell me why I had any reason to think you were trying to sponge off exp if you don't even ask before joining outside my level range.
XXX reply: for criss sake get off the i am god kick for a second and grow up, has nothing to do with any bull i want xp like EVERYBODY else in thios **** game that is the point of it isnt it and to have fun
XXX reply: but people like you dont make it fun
XXX reply: it isnt real life it is a game
XXX reply: flagging and xp is the reason for anyone to do any quest am i right
I reply: /r Why don't YOU get odd the I am God kick yourself, and just ask, instead of insulting me.
XXX reply: there isntr no insulting its showing a point that you think your the best to think that a lvl 12 cant do it
I reply: Im' just waiting for you to be polite and just ask.
XXX reply: well what the hell was why did you decline me and the fact that i have lost half my right hand in the war is why i dont type much is that good enough
XXX reply: for one that is why my typing is so bad and slow is that i have lost half my right hand
I reply: To say frankly? I don't know if you are bluffing, so I have to assume you are. I declined because you triedto join outside the level range without asking. That is all there is to it.
XXX reply: well whatever i have beenn playing thios game since launch date and there are 48+ people in this game that know me in real life and i am not lieing to you so good luck with ever running with me
XXX reply: to call me a liar is wrong and uncalled for
I reply: Be sure to tell the complete story. I'm not saying you are lying, but this is the internet, in case you didn't notice
I accept a separate lv 12 into party.
XXX reply: but you let another lvl 12 ***
I reply: (1) I've played with said person before, so he/she's not an unknown. (2) I'm sill waiting for you to just ask politely.
XXX reply: i did and not doing it again
XXX reply: when i asked why you declined me was asking
XXX reply: and you gave me some bs about out of lvl range
XXX reply: if you would have said you should just asked well then
XXX reply: that would be different
I reply: Maybe it's just me, but askign me why I declined you, only deserves and answer of why I declined you, and it not an actual request to join despite being lower than my level range.
XXX reply: and maybe its just me but declineing someone without saying why is well rude
I reply: Despite the reason being obvious because you are clearly under the requested level range?
XXX reply: so it is the same either way
XXX reply: how long yuo been playing
I reply: 3 months.
XXX reply: i have done these at lvl10 and 11 so lvl is what ever you make
XXX reply: and i have been playing for just about 5 years
XXX reply: good luck ill be seeing you
XXX reply: 48 toons its hard to avoid me on all of them
I reply: Be sure to visit the forums, because I'm typing my version of this story there right now.

And that is the end of story.

EDIT: Contact had been made with other members of guild Alpha. Thanks to those who contacted me.

[Swedishchef]

That´s funny

[BurningDownTheHouse]

That´s funny

Actually, it's quite sad...

[Murderface]

op your kind of a jerk lol why cant a lvl 12 do pop?
easy disruptor easy vorp easy smite all are lvl 10 with the last guy its run him around and smack him dead. the only reason why i might not let him join is i want a higher lvl base so i can do elite pop and go back to doing norm lets say madstone

dude lvl 12-15 is what a pop group should look like!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know anyone who would lie about half there hand being blown off in the war, but as you said it is the internet

sorry man not signed bro u should have let him in the party even more so since you had a lvl 15 in party
to boot you let another lvl 12 in and told him thats the reason why you declined him because he didnt say pretty please can i come along im
man really i mean i feel really bad for that guy. why not just let him join and hear him out

if you do aquest and its lvl 14 the obvious level request should be lvl 12-15 and duh he might be unknown to you since uhm he is on a FREAKIN LOWBIE!!!!!
jeez that guy really left a bittersad taste in my mouth

hey bro if you reading ths come on over to khyber bro. i accept first and ask questions later like for instance for pop i would be like do you have insurrection or do you have vorpal gt disruptor smiter etc etc.

i feel like those guys whoever they are in that treky dudes post man. thats fn sad bro

oh and next time op the proper thing to do would explain to him why you are gonna decline him before doing so because in my book that is rude.
ill at least say hey man i cant let u in i need some uber guys to help me with elite so i need more higher lvls then low. but f man u didnt because you let another 12 join you. i really hope it was not out of spite

[shadow_419]

I can't blame OP for declining and continuing to decline. Ran a Pug PoP two weeks ago and a lvl 10 Pally sends me a tell asking to join because he was outside of the lvl range. I asked have you done this before he says "yes , blah, blah, blah". I ask again when we start the quest "Anyone new to this quest?", and all I get is silence and no party chat saying they are new. Second room he dies, third room he dies, fourth room on he's on lever duty. After fourth room he asks "is it almost done? ", I just rolled my eyes and said not quite. It's funny though even after I tell everyone not to pick up the docent at the end, lvl 10 Pally goes "ding!", Justice.

[pow_lee]

First, if a level range is setup, I find it ok to stick to it, no matter if its doable by lower level or not. If someone is not happy with the decision, he can do his on lfm with his own restrictions.
Putting up an LFM saying no noobs would be the same, all quests can be by noobs too, so why decline them?

If im the party leader it is my party and i can pick or decline whoever I like, if you are not happy with it, you can always leave. Only thing i would demand is keeping a proper choice of language, which has been done in this case, so fully agreed.

[Clay]

"sorry man" the only thing the OP did wrong was prolong a futile and childish discussion.

XXX tells you: why did you decline me?
You tell him: because the lfm says 13-15 and you are 12.
XXX tells you: but I am uber and can do the quest at lvl 9.
You tell him: then make your own group, cus now I don't like you and you will never find your way into my lfm ever again so ... buh bye!
/squelch add XXX

According to XXX you must send a tell to decline people, but not to join when outside of LFM specifications. I highly doubt the XXX person displays as much courtesy as he demands from others.

At any rate, it is the LFMer's discretion to set the lfm up and accept or decline as he or she sees fit, end of story.

And the fact that you retyped that whole lame discussion... instead of just posting a screen shot... just what are you trying to achieve? A pat on the back?

Pass me some of that Picard face balm please!

[moomooprincess]

I am with the OP. A minority players are rude, always will be too.

When players not fitting criteria apply I send them a tell explaining why.

Last night, I applied to one group to only be left hanging. After a bit, I decide I am NOT going to be allowed in. So I go run some of the New house D stuff solo. About halfway through the second quest I get the group is full message.

Any PUG I do anymore I assume the worst. When I join a PUG in progress, "Are you all self sufficient?" response "What do you mean?" That answered my question and I carry their stones to the shrines.

[petegunn]

Your party your show op, all one can do is be civil and like Clay wrote after the initial decline and explaination, you should have just moved on.

[-Satureon-]

Unfortunatelly /squelch add xy is useless against altaholics and fake toons.

Dear devs, maybe this is the time to make the /squelchaccount add xy command?
Because usually when squelch happen, the problem doesnt always the toon itself, but the player behavior...

[Razcar]

OP, you should have just squelched him. Would have saved you all that typing and aggravation. Your LFM is your LFM, if you just want e.g. half-elf shruiken kensai in your group then that's your prerogative (might be up for a while though ). If someone wants to run a quest under preferences that differs from someone else's he should just make his own LFM.

[ElmStrongbow]

I think you missed an opportunity here. The XXX player in question was obvioulsy a founder since he has been playing for 5 years and has 48 toons. Amazing. Your loss I guess! (Please note sarcasm)

Elm

[DragonDrago77]

I hate drama, all forms of it.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

I hate drama, all forms of it.

Yeah, seems to me that they're both whine ass *******.

Could you imagine being in that run if BOTH of them were in group?

I'd be here posting about all y'all.

[Pyromaniac]

Don't you know that you should take every single player who applies to a quest, regardless of name, guild, gear, level, previous experience, attitude etc? It shows that you are not uber enough to complete the quest without carrying them along.

(Sarcasm, for those who didn't get it).

[Vhlad]

I haven't pugged prior to end-game in a loooooooong time. But back in the day if I was ever declined by a random pugger for either no apparent reason or for a stupid reason, I would nerd-rage as follows: /tell the decliner "fine, I'll solo it. Starting now, it's a race!", zerg the hell out of it, get the completion before his entire group, and then send the decliner a screenshot of the quest completed solo, followed by subsequent taunting: "oh, you're still not done yet?", "do you need help?", "doing it again, lets see how many times I can complete this before your group does it once".

That was before dungeon scaling though. Heck, with dungeon scaling now I would especially expect no less from someone with "48 toons" who has been playing for 5 years.

[Spisey]

[Spisey]

That´s funny

This threat of drama is only a test. Please go back to your butterflies as your attempt at drama is /fail





So I hear that maybe Legion is at fault...

[Buggss]

I think you missed an opportunity here. The XXX player in question was obvioulsy a founder since he has been playing for 5 years and has 48 toons. Amazing. Your loss I guess! (Please note sarcasm)

Elm

Yeah and considering the game's 4th anniversary only just passed 5 years is pretty impressive. Either that or he's just broken some sort of NDA...

Also considering it was the OP's group it doesnt matter why he refused anyone for whatever reason, you've gone to the trouble of forming the group which many don't bother with any more so it's up to you who gets in.

[Murderface]

Yeah and considering the game's 4th anniversary only just passed 5 years is pretty impressive. Either that or he's just broken some sort of NDA...

Also considering it was the OP's group it doesnt matter why he refused anyone for whatever reason, you've gone to the trouble of forming the group which many don't bother with any more so it's up to you who gets in.

its not breaking nda to say you were playing for 5 years if you played alpha and beta he didnt actualy come out and say that.
i agree with clay or wheoever said u just should have squelched from word go. istead of dragging it out and prolonging said persons agony
however pop is an easy quest on norm can easily be done 9-12 or heck even 8-12 im willing to say it can be beat by 7-10 with a few rr vorps/smiters optic nerves and such or have afew wf

people have skirted the issue since it is a lvl 14 quest and gianthold is primarily a 12-14 or 15 to not go 2 lvls over

so any talented player would make an lfm read 11-14 for all the side quests and 12-15 for the main quests. if you dont know the real level range of pop you better ask somebody nub.