hybird AA Mech Rogue Build

**Drakcor** · 04-17-2010, 06:58 PM

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This is my 1st attempt to make a rogue build. The idea is to be well rounded with ranged, melee as well as some buffs to the party but not lacking in traps, lock doors & chests, please note I do not intend to be best DPS or lead on kills but to help out the party in almost in any situation at will as well as soloing.

I have not tested this build out just yet but will as soon as I True Reincarnate her.
Any feedback is welcome here to improve this build

Now let me start as far as what she is:
Elf Female lv 18rogue/1wizard/1fighter with a 34 point build
stats wise I have not made one yet but her con for sure is 12-14 and her dex will be higher then her strength so she is going to be dex build and possably a high int 14-18

Now for feats I have planed out
Level, feats, Enhancements
lv 1 weapon finesse, Disable I, Open lock I, Search I, Spot I

lv 2 Sneak attack I, Skill boost I, Trap sense I, Trap lore I

lv 3 twf, elf spot I, elf search I

lv 4 Disable II, Trap sense II, Open lock II

lv 5 Skill boost II, Search II

lv 6 Nimble fingers, Mech I

lv 7 Spot II, elf Spot II

lv 8 Disable III

lv 9 Itwf, Open lock III, elf search II

lv 10 Skill boost III

lv 11 Skill boost IV

lv 12 Gtwf, Mech II swaping Gtwf with PBS

lv 13 Disable IV

lv 14 Open lock IV

lv 15 Point blank shot, Sneak attack II, Sneak attack III swaping PBS with GTWF

lv 16 Sneak attack IV

lv 17

lv 18 I am unsure what to put in this last spot because of the Fighter class, I can put down toughness as a feat and get weapon focus: ranged weapon from the fighter bonus feat on lv 20 or get weapon focus and get bow strength skipping the HP any advice would help but I am pretty sure on the toughness

lv 19 Mental toughness (wizard feat) 19-20 wizard and fighter taking earlyer levels

lv 20 Weapon focus: ranged weapon (fighter) elf Arcane archer, elf Force arrow, elf +2 arrows, elf Acid arrows, elf +3 arrows, elf Explosion arrows, elf +4 arrows, elf Force burst arrow, elf Terror arrow, elf +5 arrow, elf slayer arrow.

with 4 to spare if anyone can suggest something with the 4 points as far as the race, rogue, fighter or wizard enhancments please do so

As far as equipment I do not have any raiding gear or tomes at this moment

Also is this viable at end game?

**Artos_Fabril** · 04-17-2010, 08:49 PM

#1: Do not take fighter at level 20, you only 2+int mod skillpoints and all of your important skills as cross-class. This is especially bad when you've take a wiz level at 19, you're going to be cross classing all your important skills 2 levels in a row. A 14 int would mean you have enough points to raise 2 skills 1 point each as cross-class, so pick 2 of: Search, Disable, UMD, Diplo. You don't really need max ranks in spot, open, balance, tumble, etc, so the loss of a couple skill points won't cripple you in any of those.

#2: Mechanic PrE is unnecessary, especially for a TR. You can buy a +skills item for each skill and each odd level before you TR and just pull them out as you level to them. It's still a good choice from 6 to 11, but only because the other choices are so bad, and you may well end up running (certain) quests above your level and on elite to max XP.

#3: Nimble fingers. You don't need it, especially when you're also taking Mechanic as a PrE. You won't need it even if you switch out Mechanic for Acrobat at 12, and then switch again to assassin at 18. Take something more useful here, Weapon Focus:Ranged which you will need anyway for AA might be a good choice, or any other weapon focus, or OTHF, and then swap it out later for WF:Ranged when you're ready to get AA. Or PBS, if you want to use ranged weapons for more than the occasional out of reach mob at lewer levels.

#4: Can't take GTWF at 12, you're 2 short on the BAB, this'll have to wait until 15 unless you take several full-BAB levels in there somewhere. See #6 for suggestions.

#5: Ranged combat is already not-great, and this build doesn't take any of the feats that make it almost-good, so all the ranged feats and AP you're spending does more to dilute your abilities, instead of broadening them. Which brings up the next point.

#6: Unless you're specifically trying to avoid ranger, you might be better off taking 6 levels for bow strength, rapid shot, multishot, and 2 of your TWF feats free, sure you'd be locked out of tempest by taking AA, but since you're planning on using ranged combat, all 5 of the free feats are beneficial instead of just the normal 2-2.5 that a more melee oriented character cares about. Since you can't go tempest, you don't have to spend 3 feats getting spring attack either. As a bonus, 2 favored enemies and ram's might.

#7: Level 18 feat, IC: Ranged or IC: pierce. Decide which you want based on the playstyle you want, and then take it.

A few other things that might have an effect: What class are you TRing out of? This might have an affect on what's useful to you, and whether you want to use that level 6 feat to take your past life feat. You say you've got no tomes. If you're going to TR, why not save up some tomes before you do, either loot them or grab off the AH, whichever you prefer. While you're at it, you might want to craft a Rad II before you TR, unless grinding out greensteel isn't fun for you and that's why you're TRing. Best options for stat-line are probably 14/18/14/14/8/10 or 16/18/14/12/8/8 either one putting all 5 levelups into dex. If you bank a couple of +3 tomes before you TR, you could even go 13/19/14/12/8/10.

**Drakcor** · 04-17-2010, 09:55 PM

1. I could possably take fighter and wizard early on so that my skills can catch up to lv. would that work?

2. maybe it is unnecessary but most people that I have so far seen wants rogues for disabling traps. I do plan on running elite and epic and this should help me at end game as far as the others such as arcobat I honestly do not care about it and assassin as far as I heard it is pretty useless once at i think its elite-epic the trash are immune to vorple attacks and such but this is just a play style for me about a mech rogue( I have not seen end game as of yet for I am only lv 12 at the moment so I am sorry if my info is wrong)

3. nimble fingers was just a filler untill I find something more appealing. good suggestions on the feats for this slot thank you.

4.I will then swap point blank shot with GTWF

5. I'm aware of the ranged combat but hear me out in my madness, This is more towards soloing then anything else other then hard to reach monsters or if I steal aggro from the tank Ill change to use a bow for a bit and still have some damage in.
my bow atm has acid pure good then I added icy burst with force damage if I add AA ( such as acid example adds a 2d6) and sneak attack damage in a shot should be decent amount w/o pulling otherwise the boss will kill me or the healer will use alot of mana before the tank will pick it up.

6. yes I am trying to avoid ranger

7. If I have to choise I'll more then likly take the IC pierce Thank you for suggesting them

I'm TRing from a rogue into rogue again. What is Rad II dose and I have not reach that point just yet artos

If anyone else have any suggestions please post ^_^

**honkuimushi** · 04-17-2010, 10:36 PM

Assuming you're starting Rogue, you can't take Weapon Finesse at level 1 because it requires a BAB of 1. If you're not starting Rogue, you've got a whole lot more problems. Also, 1 Ranger is much better than 1 Fighter. You get more skill points and Bow Strength. That's critical if you want to do any damage and you don't have the feats to purchase it. You're also missing all the prereqs for AA.

I would suggest downloading the character planner. That way you will be locked out of impossible builds and you'll have a much easier time understanding what you need and how you can build this. If all you want is an archer trapmonkey, something like a Ranger 12/ Fighter 6/ Rogue 2 is much better.

**Artos_Fabril** · 04-17-2010, 10:48 PM