The Shroud, and Shards of Power

[Velexia]

Shard of Power drops in 1 chest, in part 1.
Shard of Great Power drops in 2 chests in part 3.
Shard of Supreme Power drops in 2 chests in parts 4 and 5.

I suggest that Part 2, which also drops small ingredients, like part 1, drop Shards of Power. It really would only make perfect sense.

[Oolung]

/signed

[Delt]

I would make sense...I'd sure bet that was the original plan. Then some sort of disconnect happened when the guy in charge of the loot list tables got in there.

I'll tell ya though, it's pretty low on my list of changes/fixes. I still want a ingrediant trader (ala. GH relic trader) so I can finally do something with these excess bones and horns.

[Kaldaka]

I would make sense...I'd sure bet that was the original plan. ...

The original plan was to put medium ingredients in part 2 which was the case for a long time. It was just recently that they put smalls in that chest ... I'm not even sure why they did it

I do agree that putting a chance for a small shard in that chest is justifiable.

[DragonDrago77]

Makes sense to me.

/signed

[ArichValtrahn]

Yes, please.

Small shards should not be the most rare shard.

[Delt]

The original plan was to put medium ingredients in part 2 which was the case for a long time.

I'm not sure what you mean (or if this was sarcasm). You think the original Shroud plan was for (1) small ingred/shard chest, (3) med ingred/shards, (2) large ingred/shard chests... Why? Because medium stuff is just that super duper?

The shroud was well designed otherwise, so I choose to believe that logically, at inception, it was intended to have 2 of each chest. Even better, the first set of chests should "have a chance" at ingreds/shard while the next set (or in the case of part 3, the optional) should have a 100% chance. It reflects the progress-based multi-part raid they originally had in mind.

[Kaldaka]

I'm not sure what you mean (or if this was sarcasm). You think the original Shroud plan was for (1) small ingred/shard chest, (3) med ingred/shards, (2) large ingred/shard chests... Why?

I simply choose to believe that they implemented it as they designed it ...

[Delt]

I simply choose to believe that they implemented it as they designed it ...

Ah yes, Turbine...the company famous for overall polish & QA. Never have they buggered up loot lists. And they are quick at rectifying mistakes to boot!

I was giving you credit for maybe being sarcastic or something too...lol

[Nott]

I simply choose to believe that they implemented it as they designed it ...

Wow... I can't tell if you're saying that jokingly, or if you just haven't been paying attention the past four years. Just take a look at the staggering number of things that are or have been broken for extended periods of time.

Even if we limit the discussion to the Shroud, the many bug fixes (comatose harry, recall to korthos / wavecrest, pt. 4 death pact) show clearly that they've released "features" that were not intended. Just because they haven't fixed other problems is no reason to think they're working as intended. Tier 1 drop rate -- I have no idea of their intention, but consider the way to repair damaged greensteel throwers (only known way is an exploit), consider how well the optional shroud collectible quest works, consider part 1's DPS lag. Sorry, when something seems out of place in this game, there's more reason to suspect its broken than there is to suspect its as designed and intended.

[Kaldaka]

Guys,

Your argument that Turbine screws up often doesn't mean that they screwed the small shard thing up to begin with ...

As if Turbine wouldn't intentionally want to put in a bottleneck for small shards and small ingredients when they made the Shroud ... As if Turbine didn't understand that a lot of groups would farm parts 1 to 3 or whatever over and over again until ransack when the shroud first came out and wanted to avoid the overpowering effect of a whole bunch of tier 2 GS upgrades within weeks of the Shroud opening ...

I still believe they only wanted one chest to give smalls ... No sarcasm, just an opinion.

[Kaldaka]

Oh and one more thing ...

You honestly think that the drop rates of ingredients and shards wasn't a major discussion point for the developers of this quest? And wouldn't you think that based on those discussions that they would put serious emphasis on ensuring those items' drop rates were WAI before implementation?

As I said just an opinion ...

[Delt]

Guys,

Your argument that Turbine screws up often doesn't mean that they screwed the small shard thing up to begin with ...

As if Turbine wouldn't intentionally want to put in a bottleneck for small shards and small ingredients when they made the Shroud ... As if Turbine didn't understand that a lot of groups would farm parts 1 to 3 or whatever over and over again until ransack when the shroud first came out and wanted to avoid the overpowering effect of a whole bunch of tier 2 GS upgrades within weeks of the Shroud opening ...

I still believe they only wanted one chest to give smalls ... No sarcasm, just an opinion.

Lol...I don't mind you having an opinion that different...it would be nice to see it logically supported other than "they meant to"... maybe I expect too much?

The excess of medium ingrediants does nothing to bottleneck anything, so your nifty theory does not explain away the extra set of part 2 chests. Further, part one is the easiest & quickest to farm by design -- so even the very idea that smalls were intended to be the initial bottleneck is just plain silly - most groups were farming that at first (and part 2 was easily bypassed via firewall, lol).

Finally, the reason we all have extra horns is because they were "mistakingly" added to the loot list..oops, huh?

The issue isn't important and I'll drop this derail...I just find your process at logical deduction...well, funny.

[Sweyn]

Shard of Power drops in 1 chest, in part 1.
Shard of Great Power drops in 2 chests in part 3.
Shard of Supreme Power drops in 2 chests in parts 4 and 5.

I suggest that Part 2, which also drops small ingredients, like part 1, drop Shards of Power. It really would only make perfect sense.

The rareness of SM. Shards has been known, i don't think we need a thread every week about it

[Velexia]

The rareness of SM. Shards has been known, i don't think we need a thread every week about it

Apparently we do, because it still needs to be changed.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

shards in the store, 195 TP