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    Hi guys, got a ranger/rogue/fighter (I didn't go lawful, dammit! :P) and have 2 gs rapier blanks with the ingreds to get both up to tier II and one up to tier III (soon). Well, my question is whether I should go Li II or Min II for BOTH the rapiers? Or would anyone recommend one Min and one Li each in one hand.

    I'm not a powergamer and telling me to craft two sets of Li II and Min II respectively would not really be helpful. Of course, I plan to do that in the future, but right now, I only have these two blanks and would like to know what would be best for non-epic questing/raiding in general.

    Thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegaliaVX View Post
    Hi guys, got a ranger/rogue/fighter (I didn't go lawful, dammit! :P) and have 2 gs rapier blanks with the ingreds to get both up to tier II and one up to tier III (soon). Well, my question is whether I should go Li II or Min II for BOTH the rapiers? Or would anyone recommend one Min and one Li each in one hand.

    I'm not a powergamer and telling me to craft two sets of Li II and Min II respectively would not really be helpful. Of course, I plan to do that in the future, but right now, I only have these two blanks and would like to know what would be best for non-epic questing/raiding in general.

    Thank you very much.

    I personally wield dual Min IIs on my TWF Pally but a Li II and a Min II would work as well. I would start out with 1 of each. That way you cover anything you come up against, Lighting and Acid get through most things as they do not have an immunity or high resistance to it that I have found, short of raid bosses.

    So guess I am saying that Min II great for pretty much everything and Li II great for trash mobs
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    Min II is a good generic killer. It bipasses pretty much any DR. Its a standard boss beater. It would be my first choice.

    And yet... LitII is just kool. Nice damage that on non/low DR mobs probably beats out the Min II. Some of the DPS gets wasted in those lightening strikes from "overkill" but its still a fun effect.

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    2 of each ..opps sorry did not read all your post.. so i went 2 lit 2 thats fun for me
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    I dont deal as much damage as I would like to (28pt and started with a lower strength) with my ranger so I went with a Lightning Strike first (I have some met pgs for bosses) and will do a MinII next.

    So, do one of each to start with IMO.

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    after i made my first lit2 it went off some times.. but wowow when i finally made number 2 its like a lightning storm were ever i go so .. my advice is you make 1 make them both.. and happy hunting
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    Umm...

    The good thing about MinII that everyone seems to forget is that it provides with a Stoneskin clickie. It is a decent way to reduce incoming damage too.

    But yeah, unless you are raiding on elite, Lightning II is more damage than Min II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnax View Post
    Umm...

    The good thing about MinII that everyone seems to forget is that it provides with a Stoneskin clickie. It is a decent way to reduce incoming damage too.

    But yeah, unless you are raiding on elite, Lightning II is more damage than Min II.
    yea i have a couple earth items. and stone skin is nice i solo alot so the more the better . but one thing i do notice at high lv is it only takes a hit or two too kill the stone , but hey better to have than not, saves on pots , unless u use hierlings like me
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    Depends on a couple background questions:

    Question 1: Do you have any other weapons that you could use against higher level content such as devils/demons? (e.g. transmuting + pure good, silver + pure good)

    Question 2: Do you have Improved Crit: Pierce already, or plan to take it eventually?

    If you answered YES to both of those, then I would recommend going dual Lit2's. Reason being you don't need the Keen aspect of Min2's and you don't need the transmuting portion of it. If you need Stoneskin clickies, it's pretty easy to make them on a wearable since you only have to take it to tier 2 to get one. Plus, lightning blast is neato.

    If you answered NO to both of those, then dual Min2's will most likely serve you best. Reason being you'll get Keen on both items, possibly saving you a feat. You'll also have your devil-beaters and your Stoneskin clickies.

    If you answered YES to only 1 of them, then I would recommend one of each. It would basically be the meet-in-the-middle solution to the other two options.


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    I went with Min II for both my rangers because they are the ideal boss-beaters and while they are not the ideal weapons for everything, they will hurt anything. On hard/Elite the boss DR is insane, you either need Min II or something else that will bypass.

    Dual lightnings or lightning/radiance might be in the future but not for some time.

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    How about Acid Blast?
    That would add some nice DPS while still allowing you to keep the transmuting property of the weapon.

    Holy + Acid Burst + Acid Blast + Bleeding + Transmuting + Stoneskin clickie FTW

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    On my ftr / rng / mnk I wield one of each min II / lit II (khopesh).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    How about Acid Blast?
    That would add some nice DPS while still allowing you to keep the transmuting property of the weapon.

    Holy + Acid Burst + Acid Blast + Bleeding + Transmuting + Stoneskin clickie FTW
    Thats the MinII I suggested earlier in the thread.

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    Lightning 2 is the better all around weapon.

    It does more damage in everything that's presently frequently run. Shroud/ToD/VoD normal - Lightning 2 out-DPS's Mineral 2 by a fair amount (about 5 damage per swing). Against no-DR mobs - Lit 2 is about 15 damage per swing ahead (which is about as much as the difference between Mineral 2 and a greensteel blank).


    It's only for Shroud Elite and ToD Hard/Elite that you'll really wish you had the Minerals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArichValtrahn View Post
    Thats the MinII I suggested earlier in the thread.

    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...__acid&altar=3
    Ah my bad. I was thinking of the min II i have planned for my toon - the +4 AC version.
    My secondary will be the one suggested above.

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