MyDDO Suggestion: More Info

[WeaselKing]

Since we are baring equipment and basic character sheet info to the world, why can't we include feats and enhancements as well? A character can have all the equipment and stats they want but if they have made poor feat decisions (see: Power Critical and Improved Fortification), they might be as useless as a 125 hp lvl 20 barb. Alternately they may have a bizarre equipment setup that makes no sense until you factor in their feats and enhancements. It just seems like people are already using this system to judge (fairly or unfairly) the aptitude of a player and the more information made available to them, the more accurate that their judgement could be.

[Calebro]

You guys can do whatever you like with myDDO. Add whatever, change whatever, I don't care.

I have begun the habit of creating a shadow-toon for myDDO.
I make a drow FvS with my name, then delete it, then make the toon that I really want to play with that same name. Anyone who needs to check myDDO in order to decide if they want me is probably someone that I don't want to group with anyway, So when they see my level 1 FvS I get declined and I don't have to worry about running with elitist players who need to check myDDO.

So change anything you want!

/signed

[QuantumFX]

I’ll try to work this suggestion into the comp I’m tinkering with.

[Sirea]

You guys can do whatever you like with myDDO. Add whatever, change whatever, I don't care.

I have begun the habit of creating a shadow-toon for myDDO.
I make a drow FvS with my name, then delete it, then make the toon that I really want to play with that same name. Anyone who needs to check myDDO in order to decide if they want me is probably someone that I don't want to group with anyway, So when they see my level 1 FvS I get declined and I don't have to worry about running with elitist players who need to check myDDO.

So change anything you want!

/signed

I find the lengths people go to to "trick" the system because they are that afraid of what strangers on the internet think of them pretty comical at times.

[Samadhi]

I find the lengths people go to to "trick" the system because they are that afraid of what strangers on the internet think of them pretty comical at times.

/signed

[Calebro]

I find the lengths people go to to "trick" the system because they are that afraid of what strangers on the internet think of them pretty comical at times.

I don't care what people think of me.
What I care about is avoiding the types of players that need to see all my stats and gear in order to make a decision.

You want a 5th level rogue? I applied.
You want a 16th level FvS? I applied.
Either that is enough or it isn't. If it isn't, I don't want to group with you anyway, so I make absolutely sure you decline me.

[Sirea]

I don't care what people think of me.
What I care about is avoiding the types of players that need to see all my stats and gear in order to make a decision.

You want a 5th level rogue? I applied.
You want a 16th level FvS? I applied.
Either that is enough or it isn't. If it isn't, I don't want to group with you anyway, so I make absolutely sure you decline me.

All depends on context.

Screening characters at level 5 is a bit overboard.

Screening characters for elite high level raids or epic content? A bit more acceptable.

I guess my next thought would be to ask yourself why people might be declining you. Is it for something stupid and obvious like you left your haggle gear on? Or is it something more telling like you have no fort or under 300 HP on a "melee" toon?

[Calebro]

I guess my next thought would be to ask yourself why people might be declining you. Is it for something stupid and obvious like you left your haggle gear on? Or is it something more telling like you have no fort or under 300 HP on a "melee" toon?

You're missing my point.
If they check myDDO they decline me because it shows me as a level 1 FvS with no gear, just as I set it to show.
When they decline me after checking, not if but when, it's because I set it up so that they would.

[Calebro]

We've derailed this thread long enough, but perhaps I should elaborate.
I play this game to have fun. Some people play it to win, but I play for fun. The types of people that need to check myDDO to form their groups aren't playing for fun, they're playing to win. They're the ones that absolutely need to finish every quest as fast as possible.
Well for me it's not a race.

Let's say a quest takes an average of 8 minutes with a decent, competent group. I'm OK with 8 minutes. I'm also OK with 40 minutes, as long as I'm having fun. I'm also OK with 4 minutes, but that's a lot less fun. Running past everything to finish as fast as possible has it's uses, but it sure as heck isn't "fun" in any way, shape, or form.

So you tell me, if a group leader needs to see my stats and gear, which kind of a group is this going to be? It's going to be an optimized, kill everything as fast as possible kind of group. As I said, this has it's uses, but it's not FUN!

So I weed out a large portion of the groups that I wouldn't enjoy by doing this.
Make sense now?

[WeaselKing]

We've derailed this thread long enough, but perhaps I should elaborate.
I play this game to have fun. Some people play it to win, but I play for fun. The types of people that need to check myDDO to form their groups aren't playing for fun, they're playing to win. They're the ones that absolutely need to finish every quest as fast as possible.
Well for me it's not a race.

Let's say a quest takes an average of 8 minutes with a decent, competent group. I'm OK with 8 minutes. I'm also OK with 40 minutes, as long as I'm having fun. I'm also OK with 4 minutes, but that's a lot less fun. Running past everything to finish as fast as possible has it's uses, but it sure as heck isn't "fun" in any way, shape, or form.

So you tell me, if a group leader needs to see my stats and gear, which kind of a group is this going to be? It's going to be an optimized, kill everything as fast as possible kind of group. As I said, this has it's uses, but it's not FUN!

So I weed out a large portion of the groups that I wouldn't enjoy by doing this.
Make sense now?

Thanks for the derailment, bug out the display all you want, for those that don't or can't (read: rolled toon b4 MyDDO), it would be nice to have all the information evaluated instead of just some.

[Temppu]

This is based to D&D 3.5, so lot of info about feats can be found from D20 SRD http://www.d20srd.org/ and D&D Player's handbook 3.5. Enhancements are not described there because it is extension to D&D 3.5. I bet it'd become quite boring if we didn't have those.

[WeaselKing]

This is based to D&D 3.5, so lot of info about feats can be found from D20 SRD http://www.d20srd.org/ and D&D Player's handbook 3.5. Enhancements are not described there because it is extension to D&D 3.5. I bet it'd become quite boring if we didn't have those.

Um, MyDDO is a part of the DDO website that allows you to view the stats and equipment of other characters that you may see in game, or even your own. MyDDO shows abilities and hp, AC, sp and saves, as well as the equipment your character was wearing when it last logged out of game. It was this system to which I am suggesting the addition of the ability to see a characters selected feats, so that if these pages are going to be used to judge that they can at least have all of the relevant information before they go and judge.

I do not know if you misunderstood my post or simply didn't read it but I do appreciate your attempt to help me find the 3.5 rules/SRD which is information I would surely want to possess if I did not already.

[Nott]

You guys can do whatever you like with myDDO. Add whatever, change whatever, I don't care.

I have begun the habit of creating a shadow-toon for myDDO.
I make a drow FvS with my name, then delete it, then make the toon that I really want to play with that same name. Anyone who needs to check myDDO in order to decide if they want me is probably someone that I don't want to group with anyway, So when they see my level 1 FvS I get declined and I don't have to worry about running with elitist players who need to check myDDO.

So in your opinion, relying on a broken feature of MyDDO to hide your details is the proper response?

So change anything you want!

What happens when (if) they fix the bug you're taking advantage of to remain anonymous? I suspect since you feel strongly enough about your privacy that you take intentional steps to protect it now, you'll be less than happy about them fixing this known bug. Instead of dancing around stating how this doesn't affect you (so nobody else matters) you might try looking at the bigger picture before making a decision about whether or not you care.

[katana_one]

So I weed out a large portion of the groups that I wouldn't enjoy by doing this.
Make sense now?

Totally makes sense (though I personally find it a little extreme, but who am I to judge?).

Any method you can find to weed out players you don't want to group with, even if it's a bug, is a good thing.

[nibelung]

You guys can do whatever you like with myDDO. Add whatever, change whatever, I don't care.

I have begun the habit of creating a shadow-toon for myDDO.
I make a drow FvS with my name, then delete it, then make the toon that I really want to play with that same name. Anyone who needs to check myDDO in order to decide if they want me is probably someone that I don't want to group with anyway, So when they see my level 1 FvS I get declined and I don't have to worry about running with elitist players who need to check myDDO.

So change anything you want!

/signed

i have recently been messing around with the 100 point favor dash, and for fun checked the myddo for the favor mule. This trick was not working for him, it seems myddo updates that character everytime after deletion...even though I changed his race and class it still updated.

[MorningStarSE]

Since we are baring equipment and basic character sheet info to the world, why can't we include feats and enhancements as well? A character can have all the equipment and stats they want but if they have made poor feat decisions (see: Power Critical and Improved Fortification), they might be as useless as a 125 hp lvl 20 barb. Alternately they may have a bizarre equipment setup that makes no sense until you factor in their feats and enhancements. It just seems like people are already using this system to judge (fairly or unfairly) the aptitude of a player and the more information made available to them, the more accurate that their judgement could be.

I don't rely on a silly webpage to join or not a group, i prefer to see it succeed or fail and then get an opinion on these persons, not before. After that you know with who to group and not. You may tell me you cannot afford that time but i think this time lapse worth it and its part of the mmorpg thing. If you don't like to risk with a pug well, there is 2 things to do :

- Play with your guild mate
- Solo the whole **** game.

Some of my older toons doesn't have all the best stats, feats, enhancement, gear shuffle and i do the job most of the time. Though you don't know me so, you may never accept the request and know that. Some build are ****ed up on paper but work great in practice and you have to see it in progress to understand that.

Oh and nothing will prevent you to fall on someone who don't know to play at all, i mean, its like having the best car in the world but the person behind the wheel doesn't know how to drive a car...

And since we are talking about peeping at other toons, why don't you also add the spells shuffle of the character, i'm tired to hear people telling me which spell they are expecting me to cast on my wizards...


NB : I'm not totally against the idea, i just find it funny that people need that to see who will join or not their group.. especially when this game has one of the best character customization tools...

[phalaeo]

I don't care what people think of me.
What I care about is avoiding the types of players that need to see all my stats and gear in order to make a decision.

You want a 5th level rogue? I applied.
You want a 16th level FvS? I applied.
Either that is enough or it isn't. If it isn't, I don't want to group with you anyway, so I make absolutely sure you decline me.

No, it's not enough.
I've been in too many Shrouds to count where I thought that it was common sense that most raids take Clerics/FvSs to heal. Just a week or two ago, we took a Cleric that we didn't know and instead of rezzing people who ate fireballs, he started whacking on Harry.

There are many Favoured Souls and Clerics who insist on meleeing when it's healing that the group was advertised for. There are plenty of Rogues who aren't (completely or partially) specced for trapping or opening. It's very common for me to get a tell asking if I am joining to main heal or if I am a "Battle Cleric". A friend has an Exploiter Ranger and people ask him all the time how he is playing his ranger. You do this or you end up in a raid or quest with a Character builds are so complex and each one is unique and different- there's no way to determine the sub-class or specialty of a given class via the class icons next to people's names. It's just so much more complex than that and it gets tiring /telling every player with a Ranger icon whether they are an "Arcane Archer", Melee, or a kiting bow user who is risking a party wipe because he just won't put that **** bow down

[Calebro]

It's just so much more complex than that and it gets tiring /telling every player with a Ranger icon whether they are an "Arcane Archer", Melee, or a kiting bow user who is risking a party wipe because he just won't put that **** bow down

First: The leader of those Shrouds you're talking about should have made it clear to the player. It may seem like common sense to you and me, but it isn't for everyone.

Second: myDDO isn't going to tell you the information you want. All it will show is the gear the toon logged off with last. A Ranger could very well have just finished running DQ prior to logging last, but usually melee. If this is the case he'll look like an archer build. The cleric could very well have been soloing or something prior to logging off last. In this case he may look like a battle cleric.
myDDO will not tell you the kind of PLAYER you're getting. Not at all.

[Calebro]

Not a single one of the problems you mentioned is a build issue. None of it it caused by something that you could have *seen* on myDDO.
It's the PLAYER'S issue.

Are we supposed to see the future and know wwhat we will want to run next time we log on, so that we can equip that gear before logging off every time?
Screw that. I'd rather just go anon.

[Velexia]

I’ll try to work this suggestion into the comp I’m tinkering with.

That's awesome (All of it!) <3