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    Lightbulb Which would you pick for your group? 12Barb/7Bard/1Rogue or 12Fighter/7B/1R?

    Greetings,

    My recent attempts at building a fun, solo MC character turned up the issue of whether or not it would be well received in a group. Thus I decided to compare these two character builds, and get your vote as to what would work best in a group.

    GOAL: A survivable character with great rogue skills and crowd control, able to solo most content yet still able to contribute significantly to a group.

    Note: the following factors in no equipment or tomes, just base stats from the character builder.

    As this is primarily a solo character, both builds contain the following:
    Bard 7 - Crowd Control and Buffs
    32+ perform skill with Virtuoso, 39+ buffed

    264 SP
    LVL 1 Spells
    Cure light wounds
    Charm person
    Feather fall
    Focus Chant

    LVL 2 Spells
    Blur
    Heroism
    Rage
    Fox's Cunning

    Lvl 3 Spells
    Good Hope
    Displacement

    1 Rogue - Disable/open lock/search 27/26/24+ Passive
    Disable/open lock/search 36/33/33+ Buffed

    However after that, the builds diverge. the Barbarian build gets Frenzied berserker II with maximum damage reduction boosts. As it's solo, I put feats into heavy armor and tower shield, and many AP into toughness to really give me a sturdy character. DPS should be decent, although admittedly not the greatest possible.

    The Fighter build has slightly lower skills, but makes up for it with good defenses, having taken Stalwart Defender II, Combat expertise, dodge, and mobility boosted by enhancements, my AC should be quite respectable, possibly a viable main tank. Points have been put into making my trip solid as well.

    Here are my current enhancement and feat lists below, although suggestions on changes are welcome

    Barbarian:
    404 HP
    17 str 12 Dex 20 con 14 Int 8 Wis 18 CHA
    Saves 15/12/13

    Toughness
    Power Attack
    Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Tower Shield Proficiency
    Cleave
    Skill-Perform
    force of personality
    nimble fingers

    2 Human Adaptability Constitution I,
    4 Human Greater Adaptability Charisma
    2 Human Improved Recovery I,
    1 Human Versatility I,
    2 Human Versatility II,
    3 Human Versatility III,
    4 Human Versatility IV,
    1 Bard Extra Song I,
    4 Bard Virtuoso I,
    1 Bard Perform I,
    2 Bard Perform II,
    2 Bard Charisma I,
    4 Bard Charisma II,
    2 Bard Music of the Dead,
    1 Bard wand/scroll mastery 1
    1 Rogue Disable Device I,
    1 Rogue Open Lock I,
    2 Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I,
    1 Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost I,
    2 Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost II,
    3 Barbarian Damage Reduction boost III
    4 Barbarian Damage Reduction boost IV
    1 Barbarian Extend Rage I,
    2 Barbarian Constitution I,
    4 Barbarian constitution 2
    1 Barbarian Toughness I,
    2 Barbarian Toughness II,
    3 Barbarian toughness III
    1 Barbarian Sprint Boost 1
    1 Racial Toughness I,
    2 Racial Toughness II,
    3 Racial Toughness III,
    1 Barbarian Power Attack 1
    1 Barbarian Power rage 1
    1 Barbarian Damage Boost 1
    2 Barbarian Damage Boost 2
    4 Barbarian Frenzied Berserker 1
    2 Barbarian Frenzied Berserker 2


    Fighter
    370 Hit points
    17 Str 12 Dex 20 Con 14 Int 8 Wis 18 Cha
    Saves 15/12/12

    Toughness
    Skill-Perform
    *Skill-Disable Device
    *Skill-Open Lock
    *Skill-Search
    *Skill-UMD
    force of personality
    nimble fingers

    *(Note on the above. in order to maximize this character for solo-play, and to make up for fewer skill points, I needed to take these feats. Limitation of fighter's role in the build, but class feats below make up for it).

    Combat Expertise
    dodge
    mobility
    Improved Trip
    Power Attack
    Cleave
    Great Cleave

    2 Human Adaptability Constitution I,
    4 Human Greater Adaptability Charisma
    2 Human Improved Recovery I,
    1 Human Versatility I,
    2 Human Versatility II,
    3 Human Versatility III,
    4 Human Versatility IV,
    1 Bard Extra Song I,
    4 Bard Virtuoso I,
    1 Bard Perform I,
    2 Bard Perform II,
    2 Bard Charisma I,
    4 Bard Charisma II,
    2 Bard Music of the Dead,
    1 Bard wand/scroll mastery 1
    1 Rogue Disable Device I,
    1 Rogue Open Lock I,
    1 Racial Toughness I,
    2 Racial Toughness II,
    3 Racial Toughness III,
    1 Fighter Armor Class Boost I
    2 Fighter Armor Class Boost II
    3 Fighter Armor Class Boost III
    1 Fighter Intimidate I
    2 Fighter Intimidate II
    2 Fighter Strength 1
    4 Fighter Strength 2
    1 Fighter Toughness I
    2 Fighter Toughness II
    3 Fighter Toughness III
    1 Fighter Item Defense 1
    2 Fighter Mobility 1
    4 Fighter Mobility II
    1 Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
    2 Fighter Strategy (Trip) II
    3 Fighter Strategy (Trip) III
    1 Fighter Haste Boost 1
    2 Fighter Haste Boost 2

    Obviously none of this factors in things like equipment, but it should give you a good idea of what these two are capable of in their current form. I am still taking suggestions for how to improve either build, and I would like to know which you, the general public, would see more use for in a group.

    Thanks for your opinion!
    Last edited by clericreborn; 04-14-2010 at 11:15 AM.

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