GR+1 Cleric to FvS

[Marten]

I am currently a lvl 20, 28pt build Dwarf Cleric and love playing a healer. I have made some mistakes in my build and want to fix them. Marten. While I am at it I feel that I would be an even better healer if I moved to FvS. I need advice not only on the build, but the process I have planned to see if I am mistaken in my understanding of how the Reincarnation system works.

I want to accomplish several things; 1) GR+1 to a 32pt build 2) become a FvS 3) later TR to a FvS Human for the bonus feat and the 34pt build (and this is where I am needing advice) A) since I was a FvS when I TR my past life bonus will be for the FvS and not the Cleric, B) the tomes I have already used will automatically return at lvl 7, correct?

When I GR+1 I intend to play the FvS as a primary healer with support offensive casting and almost no melee. Basically I am trading in some spell slots for more SP and the free SovH-unlimited heal. Since GR+1 does not let you change race or alignment I am stuck with what I currently have. Below is that FvS.

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Level 20 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
(20 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 372
Spell Points: 2317 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 12
Will: 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                    10
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               16                    19
Charisma             16                    26

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                     9
Bluff                 3                     8
Concentration         5                    28
Diplomacy             3                    10
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                3                     8
Heal                  3                     7
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            3                     8
Jump                 -1                     0
Listen                3                     4
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     2
Spot                  3                     4
Swim                 -1                     0
Tumble                0                     1
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Bracers of the Glacier
Smedgar's Necklace
Charismatic Cloak of Resistance
Belt of the Defenders of Siberys
Wise Ring
Ogre Power Gloves
Greensteel with +3 Exceptional Cha

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I

When I add relevant items to the mix I will look something like, I think:

Strength 16
Dexterity 10
Constitution 26
Intelligence 10
Wisdom 25
Charisma 35 (with 3 Exceptional)
SP ~ 3000
HP ~ 400

Ok, so tell me if I am right or wrong, if there is another way, better way or any other constructive advice about moving from a Cleric to a FvS. Once I am ready to TR to a Human I will post that for follow-up advice.

I thank you in advance for you help.

Marten

[Mellkor]

If you are only looking to get to 20, and not do end game epics and raids too much...


I suggest making CHA a 11 or 12 or so, and bumping STR to add the ability to do some decent melee. CHA only needs to be a 19 with item + enhancements to cast lev 9 spells. You wont gain too many SP with all that CHA over a 19 CHA anyway. ( I would also suggest this on your 36 point guy as well)

If you are planning on grouping mostly and or planning to do epics and raids, focus on melee, If you want to solo a lot, focus on evocation and BB everything to death. Fastest way to 20 with a FvS, IMO. For epics and end game raids, tho, I would choose a different route.

[Impatiens]

Doesn't GR +1 only allow you to change one level of your class?

[Matuse]

Yes. He would need to greater reincarnate 11 times to have a FvS character icon (and the FvS past life when he true reincarnates). 20 times to change completely from cleric to FvS.

And no, your tomes will not kick back in. Tomes are wiped out when you true reincarnate. Have to eat new tomes.

[Elfvyra]

Doesn't GR +1 only allow you to change one level of your class?

Yup. And the OP would have to Lesser +1 or +3 until he had 11 lvls of FVS to actually be considered an "FVS" for TR purposes.


My advice is to just TR to a 34 point FVS. No GR or Lesser Hearts nedded....

[Impatiens]

My advice is to just TR to a 34 point FVS. No GR or Lesser Hearts nedded....

Yeah that's what I would recommend too. The FVS past life feat isn't game breaking enough to go through that many +1 or +3 reincarnations just to get it

[Marten]

Thanks everyone for the input, you've help me avoid a painful mistake.

To Mellkor, yes I do end game questing already with a "gimped" cleric (solo healed the last two Shroud fights after the other cleric died then recalled... yes I had to use 10 pots but we pulled it off) I do want to do epic but am not in a guild that does that atm and have been avoiding pug-epic in favor of improving my current items and friends list. However, I would ask this: if my intent is to replace the need to have a cleric for epic quests/raids and frankly more comfortable standing back and healing (not attacking with spells in these cases) would you still suggest STR over CHA? Seems that each CHA aprox-equals one cast of Heal. Is epic so rough that it is better to rely on scrolls + melee from me vs pure SP power? I certainly see your point, I guess it is just a question of my play-style and if the people I group with know me and it. I could be the fist FvS to get yelled at for not charging in or I could cause a new trend when FvS are invited to groups, "do you melee?"

Again, thanks to everyone for the feedback, I have about a week before I plan on doing anything so any other feed back is welcome.

[barongt]

Thanks everyone for the input, you've help me avoid a painful mistake.

To Mellkor, yes I do end game questing already with a "gimped" cleric (solo healed the last two Shroud fights after the other cleric died then recalled... yes I had to use 10 pots but we pulled it off) I do want to do epic but am not in a guild that does that atm and have been avoiding pug-epic in favor of improving my current items and friends list. However, I would ask this: if my intent is to replace the need to have a cleric for epic quests/raids and frankly more comfortable standing back and healing (not attacking with spells in these cases) would you still suggest STR over CHA? Seems that each CHA aprox-equals one cast of Heal. Is epic so rough that it is better to rely on scrolls + melee from me vs pure SP power? I certainly see your point, I guess it is just a question of my play-style and if the people I group with know me and it. I could be the fist FvS to get yelled at for not charging in or I could cause a new trend when FvS are invited to groups, "do you melee?"

Again, thanks to everyone for the feedback, I have about a week before I plan on doing anything so any other feed back is welcome.

If you literally want to do nothing except epic/raid healboting, then yes you would really only need CHA and CON for the little extra SP and the HP.

Although that is generally a bad idea. I know, I tried it for a while and got bored to tears. I'm about to TR into a FvS again, but this time I'm going melee/buffing/healing, no offensive casting. I will be able to heal and game & epic content just as well as I can now.

Trust me, the only thing you lose is 100-200 SP from not having 36 CHA. And you gain melee damage and survivability.