To all you so called leaders!!??

[Samadhi]

Nobody picked the sarchasm in my post? the point is that there is no way to know why someone is leaving, other than asking, and nobody would answer truthfully if that means a penalty...

I thought it was pretty obvious

[Hambo]

When you hit recall, there should pop a question "why are you leaving the quest? check one"

- Your party is full of noobs and there is no hope of completion
- You have some unexpected rl issue
- You are just farming and dont want the completion
- You are dead and need to recall to resurrect and come back
- You just opened the instance for some friends, never planned to run the quest

If the person answers the first option, then they get a xp penalty!

nope. can you not see why this would be horrible to implement? No one would answer honestly to anything that causes a penalty.

Fixed that for ya.

[Waukeen]

Just because someone does not know a quest and may hinder progress does not give anyone the right to leave group. It's not only a waist of your time not to complete the quest but your also wasting other peoples time by leaving!!

I have the right to leave.

If its my raid, and there is no chance to salvage it without massive amounts of resources, it is my right to call it.

If it is someone else's raid, I will not leave unless they are unresponsive and not leading.

If I am in a PuG quest (not epic) run. I have the right to leave for any reason I see fit... RL, spite, cigarette, coffee, girlfriend, guild, friends, lfm, whatever... if they dislike the reason I give then add me to a list.

Quests are easy to inprogress-fill, shortman, or redo quickly.

[Hambo]

Except for the fact that this issue is not going to generate the sympathy you were hoping for. also, you stated that you could careless about what happened? so if you could careless, why even post?

Turbine should deter poor sportsmanship? Really? Only thing Turbine cares about is "what have you done for us lately?" As in, have you given us money?

If they did this the forums wouldn't be a fun place anymore, would it?

[Phidius]

...Would you put a man in jail because he quit his job?...

Only after he had the man publicly flogged first, methinks.

[Chillie]

This rant/suggestion is not intended for those leaders who stick with THEIR group even when the going gets tough, even when the party whips, even when the group is full of noobs and the out look is bleak!! This message is intended for those so called LEADERS who when the going gets tough they are the first to throw out an insult to the rest of the group and leave the party!!! These so called leaders in my opinion SUCK the big one and should be penalized!!!

I was Running crucible over the weekend on hard, we had a party wipe while navigating through the maze, the leader yells out "this party is full of noobs" then LEAVES group!?!...***...

I remember when I first started playing this game, when a party would wipe players were more willing to stick through it...everyone would recall except 1 and come back in with renown determination to complete the quest...where are those people? COME BACK!!!

So here is my suggestion; Once a party enters a quest if a party member LEAVES group because things are going south then that toon who left should be penalized next time they log on weather by XP penalty or some other means. What do you think?

I hear ya, first off i do want to point out I am a guild leader but that is irrelevant to this post. I would LOVE to know the answer to that question my self I get sick and plain tired of that. It's like what happened to players doing this **** everyone has turned into wimps and those that does do the EPIC quests just about always belittles the ones that has never played the EPIC quests. I'm not directing my opinion to anyone or any one player out there it is about RESPECT isn't that right, yes?

[Chillie]

No wonder the DDOU dev's doesn't listen to 95% of the people on this forum why would they with so many here that has so much to say and really just competes with each others reply. Hell if i worked for Turbine i would never take the time to read every post in here just to help the gamers game better and fix all the bugs we complaine so much about.

I know this post has NOTHING to do with this thread but my god people you sure love to talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk oh oh and a lot more talking.

[Judo]

No wonder the DDOU dev's doesn't listen to 95% of the people on this forum why would they with so many here that has so much to say and really just competes with each others reply. Hell if i worked for Turbine i would never take the time to read every post in here just to help the gamers game better and fix all the bugs we complaine so much about.

I know this post has NOTHING to do with this thread but my god people you sure love to talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk oh oh and a lot more talking.

Thanks for the filler, Pot McKettleson.

[Pyromaniac]

those that does do the EPIC quests just about always belittles the ones that has never played the EPIC quests. I'm not directing my opinion to anyone or any one player out there it is about RESPECT isn't that right, yes?

Change of topic, but those 'that does do' the epic quests are tired of the lack of respect from those who do not come prepared for epic, hit the LFM, then spam nasty tells when they are not accepted and told why. Respect goes both ways.

[Daggaz]

/signed. But only if they give me a sixth backpack slot for all the soulstones Im gonna pack around. =D

[Morningfrost]

If you want a penalty or wiping, just ask what happen when a character used to die in a quest.

Ok, what happened? I often read about XP penalty but I don't know how it was. Nowadays, you loose the XP bonus, so there is still one form of group penalty, isn't it?

[MorningStarSE]

This rant/suggestion is not intended for those leaders who stick with THEIR group even when the going gets tough, even when the party whips, even when the group is full of noobs and the out look is bleak!! This message is intended for those so called LEADERS who when the going gets tough they are the first to throw out an insult to the rest of the group and leave the party!!! These so called leaders in my opinion SUCK the big one and should be penalized!!!

I was Running crucible over the weekend on hard, we had a party wipe while navigating through the maze, the leader yells out "this party is full of noobs" then LEAVES group!?!...***...

I remember when I first started playing this game, when a party would wipe players were more willing to stick through it...everyone would recall except 1 and come back in with renown determination to complete the quest...where are those people? COME BACK!!!

So here is my suggestion; Once a party enters a quest if a party member LEAVES group because things are going south then that toon who left should be penalized next time they log on weather by XP penalty or some other means. What do you think?

No - There are good leader, bad leader, but there are also bad player and good player. Penalizing freedom is silly. And on a social level, there are 5 guy that will never play with him again, so he's penalizing himself in the long run.

Though if you still play with that guy.. the problem is elsewhere..

[Ashurr]

I may be the most patient player in the world ( I regularly start Guild groups and PUG's expressly for pikers) But sometimes, peeps are just plain not worth running with. Accept that you may be one of these undesirables and move on.