Why arent barbarians using 17-20 crit weapons

[Wyrmnax]

AS i understand, barbarians gain a enhancement to each critical hit damage with Frenzied Berserker II and FB III.

Why arent most of them taking advantage of this by using weapons that give them more criticals?

I mean, in a simple kopesh vs scimitar argument, the kopesh is better until you get FBII. then they are both equal, and the kopesh should be outclassed by the scimitar by FBIII.

15-20/x4 crit is better than 17-20/x5.

Same thing with 2 handers.

So... what am i missing?

[rimble]

The description is incomplete. The increased critical multiplier only happens on natural rolls of 19 and 20.

[Kintro]

FB increased multiplier only applies on 19-20.

[Newtons_Apple]

AS i understand, barbarians gain a enhancement to each critical hit damage with Frenzied Berserker II and FB III.

Why arent most of them taking advantage of this by using weapons that give them more criticals?

I mean, in a simple kopesh vs scimitar argument, the kopesh is better until you get FBII. then they are both equal, and the kopesh should be outclassed by the scimitar by FBIII.

15-20/x4 crit is better than 17-20/x5.

Same thing with 2 handers.

So... what am i missing?

nm

[Goldeneye]

Turbine has a few hundred descriptions that they should REALLY update. But they don't.

[DareDelvis]

To make sure I understand:

Assuming a TWF pierce spec:
Using a picks for example the crit would always receive the benefit of the extra crit mulitpliers and be up to x7, as the only way to crit would be 19-20.
Using rapiers, however, there are the potential for two different critial hits. 15-18 generates a normal x2 crit, 19-20 generates x5.

Epic Sword of Shadows in the hand of a THF slash spec barb, would crit x7 19-20 but the usual x4 15-18.

Do I gets it?

[TreknaQudane]

To make sure I understand:

Assuming a TWF pierce spec:
Using a picks for example the crit would always receive the benefit of the extra crit mulitpliers and be up to x7, as the only way to crit would be 19-20.
Using rapiers, however, there are the potential for two different critial hits. 15-18 generates a normal x2 crit, 19-20 generates x5.

Epic Sword of Shadows in the hand of a THF slash spec barb, would crit x7 19-20 but the usual x4 15-18.

Do I gets it?

Bingo

[Kintro]

To make sure I understand:

Assuming a TWF pierce spec:
Using a picks for example the crit would always receive the benefit of the extra crit mulitpliers and be up to x7, as the only way to crit would be 19-20.
Using rapiers, however, there are the potential for two different critial hits. 15-18 generates a normal x2 crit, 19-20 generates x5.

Epic Sword of Shadows in the hand of a THF slash spec barb, would crit x7 19-20 but the usual x4 15-18.

Do I gets it?

Close, FB I doesn't give +1 crit multiplier so reduce them by 1.

[Wyrmnax]

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So... what am i missing?

The description is incomplete. The increased critical multiplier only happens on natural rolls of 19 and 20.

Turbine has a few hundred descriptions that they should REALLY update. But they don't.

Gotta love that, huh?

Thank you.

x7 crits with SoS... thats... mean...

Anyone break 1k damage on the SoS hit yet?

Actually, is it possible to get 1k on a SoS hit?

[grodon9999]

Actually, is it possible to get 1k on a SoS hit?

Gotta be. 1000/7 = about 143, isn't there an epic seeker item that gives seeker 10?

[Bilger]

Gotta love that, huh?

Thank you.

x7 crits with SoS... thats... mean...

Anyone break 1k damage on the SoS hit yet?

Actually, is it possible to get 1k on a SoS hit?

I would think a full WF pali smite could hit a 1000+ ez with a SOS epic.

I know full wf pali using deathnips hits 700-800 so epic sword should get 1000 pretty ez

[lolwatboomer]

Gotta be. 1000/7 = about 143, isn't there an epic seeker item that gives seeker 10?

epic marilith chain! too bad that's only for fleshies

[grodon9999]

epic marilith chain! too bad that's only for fleshies

That's why they invented TR :P

[Shade]

I would think a full WF pali smite could hit a 1000+ ez with a SOS epic.

I know full wf pali using deathnips hits 700-800 so epic sword should get 1000 pretty ez

Friend of mine did a 1150 smite pretty easily. Human Paladin. WF could do 1200+

And lots of Barbarians do use 15-20 crit weapons.. The epic SoS and the epic Xuum =)

Just you shouldn't be caught dead using a x2 crit weapon on a barb. At least not on anything except red/purple named. Auto crits are the way to ultimate dps, and high multipliers are awesome.

[DareDelvis]

Close, FB I doesn't give +1 crit multiplier so reduce them by 1.

I thought FBII = +1, FBIII = +1, Death Frenzy = +1

[Wyrmnax]

Ok... and withouth the paladin cheating?

1k Barb or Ftr hits?

[lolwatboomer]

That's why they invented TR :P

b-b-but I wanna be warfoooorged

[Wyrmnax]

The difference is between +8 seeker and +10 seeker. WF with a +8 should outcrit a dwarf with a +10, no? Because of the Power Attack enhancements...

[Kintro]

I thought FBII = +1, FBIII = +1, Death Frenzy = +1

Good spot, hadn't realised Death Frenzy gave another +1!

[lord_of_rage]

Ok... and withouth the paladin cheating?

1k Barb or Ftr hits?

So how does a paladin cheat? Please explain this one to me. Do you mean by using exalted smite4, having the full kotc line and set, and the capstone on an outsider? last time I checked thats doing dps not cheating.