Opinions wanted - Best class for each race

[sultanica]

Which races are best for which classes and why?
Besides issues of preference, which race is best suited for a particular class or classes?
Each has special abilities or point bonuses, so I'm trying to figure the best combination's.

Races

• Drow
• Dwarf
• Elf
• Halfling
• Human
• Warforged
• Half-Orc (update 5)

Classes

• Barbarian
• Bard
• Cleric
• Favored Soul
• Fighter
• Monk
• Paladin
• Ranger
• Rogue
• Sorcerer
• Wizard

[AdahnX]

I'm still new, but I also spend a lot of time reading the forums, compendium, and the wiki, and I can share some of my observations.

Warforged Wizard- Warforged get a Constitution bonus, which is very important for casters. They can self heal with Repair spells. And Intelligence is the only mental stat that doesn't take a hit, making it more difficult to build WF Sorcerers.

Drow Sorcerer- At least this is the class I've most frequently seen the drow associated with. Charisma is among their stat bonuses, but they also take a penalty to Con, which as stated above is important for casters, more so than Dexterity. My opinion personally would be rogue, since they would benefit from all the drow stat bonuses. Dex, which is key to a great many rogue skills and abilities. Int for more skill points as well as Search and Disable Device. And Cha for Use Magic Device and Diplomacy or Bluff.

Halfling Monk- Again, don't really understand the reasoning for it. Just see the build a lot.

Dwarf Fighter or Barbarian- Dwarves just seem geared towards being melees and tanks. I personally was never really a big fan, even in PnP.

Elf Ranger- Elves get Dex bonus, which helps out rangers who take weapon finesse or use bows, and the extra Armor Class helps since Rangers tend to wear light armor. Also Elf race opens up the Arcane Archer line of enhancements.

Human ?- Can't really pin Humans down to a best class. They are the definition of versatility. They don't get any stat bonuses or penalties, and the extra skill and feat that they get can be useful to just about anyone. Though if I was going to make a general suggestion it would be a class that doesn't seem to have enough skill points and feats. Cleric comes to mind.

Half-Orc- Wasn't aware that this was confirmed, but I'm glad it is. If PnP is any indication then Barbarians will be popular, but just about any melee class can benefit from the Strength bonus. Even thug type rogues.

Anyway, like I said, I'm new. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

[DavionFuxa]

There really is no best class or worst class for each race, though some races do have more going for them in certain classes.

* Barbarian
Human.
Because of high hit points, Humans will benefit from increased recovery when healed. It helps when you are taking quite a bit of the damage.

* Bard
None.
Bards are just too versatile to name a best race for.

* Cleric
Dwarf.
You get Dwarven Axes, get more spell points from Enhancements, and get more Constitution for higher Concentration.

* Favored Soul
No Idea.
What can I say, I really don't know about the class.

* Fighter
Dwarf.
Racial bonuses will fit in well to make the Fighter even more scary.

* Monk
No Idea.
Another Class I don't know much about.

* Paladin
Drow Elf.
Synergy is above and beyond what other races could offer.

* Ranger
Human.
Rangers tend to have some survival problems, so being a Human will help.

* Rogue
Halfling.
Them short people make the best backstabbers.

* Sorcerer
Warforged.
It doesn't matter if the racial bonuses will be lower, the self healing sorcerer is far ahead of any other.

* Wizard
Warforged.
Refer to what was said for Sorcerer, and apply as Wizard.

A Note Then About Elves:

Elves tend to be under par in relation to other Races, when it comes to being the best at anything. This is why you don't even see them mentioned once here.

[Newtons_Apple]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

[Eladiun]

This thread will end in tears.

[Thrudh]

There really is no best race for any class... Racial benefits are pretty small in the grand scheme of things...

Probably the best case can be made for warforged as wizards and sorcerors because of the self-healing..

There are some nice synergies that lead certain races to certain classes, but any race can do very well at any class.

[PSU93]

this Thread Will End In Tears.

Qft

[Yaga_Nub]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

What he said.

[JustWinBaby]

It all depends if you have 32 point characters available or not. If you do, pick Warforged. But then again, they are the easy button in DDO.

Just pick Halflings for everything. Can't go wrong there. The mobs won't attack you at all, they'll think you're too stupid. Heck, they'll even tell you to quit playing DDO. It gets worse when they see you breakdancing in the middle of a Boss Fight.

And then....

The halfling pulls out his Giant +8 Stupid Good Burst Rapier of Awesomeness and the enemies run away due to the awesomeness of the halfling.

So, warforged for 32 pointers, Halfling just because.

[jcTharin]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

What he said.

what they said

[The_Ick]

Barbarian - Dwarf
Bard - Dwarf
Cleric - Dwarf
Favored Soul - Dwarf
Fighter - Dwarf
Monk - Dwarf
Paladin - Dwarf
Ranger - Dwarf
Rogue - Dwarf
Sorcerer - Dwarf
Wizard - Dwarf

You spelled Dwarf wrong!! I fixed it for you...

[redraider]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

What he said!

[Tooky]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

Please don't! My halfling can't see over them

[Newtons_Apple]

Please don't! My halfling can't see over them

You will have to be satisfied with seeing under them.

[Truga]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

Emptyquoting this.

[Asymetric_War]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

pretty much.

what race to use where depends entirely on your build and that's only tangentially related to your class since there are dozens if not hundreds of solid builds for each class. and multiclassing explodes that exponentially. First figure out what you want your toon to do then figure out what combination of class(es) and race will get you there.

that said, warforged are virtually always a strong choice.

[Jakarr]

Barbarian - Warforged
Bard - Warforged
Cleric - Warforged
Favored Soul - Warforged
Fighter - Warforged
Monk - Warforged
Paladin - Warforged
Ranger - Warforged
Rogue - Warforged
Sorcerer - Warforged
Wizard - Warforged

This

As said months ago...

[TiberiusofTyr]

There really is no best class or worst class for each race, though some races do have more going for them in certain classes.

* Cleric
Dwarf.
You get Dwarven Axes,

No. Dwarves treat Dwarven axes as melee weapons. You still have to take fighter, paladin, barbarian, or ranger to get them for free.

* Barbarian
Warforged. power attack enhancement, immune to fatigue

[PSU93]

There really is no best class or worst class for each race, though some races do have more going for them in certain classes.

* Barbarian
Human.
Because of high hit points, Humans will benefit from increased recovery when healed. It helps when you are taking quite a bit of the damage.

What about Dwarf? Higher CON, plus Axe Enhancements.
Warforged for stacking Power Attack Enhancements, also higher CON.

* Cleric
Dwarf.
You get Dwarven Axes, get more spell points from Enhancements, and get more Constitution for higher Concentration.

Dwarves do make good Clerics, but Dwarf Clerics do not automatically get Dwarven Axe proficiency.

* Fighter
Dwarf.
Racial bonuses will fit in well to make the Fighter even more scary.

Humans can have higher Intimidate if you're going for an Intimi-Tank.

* Paladin
Drow Elf.
Synergy is above and beyond what other races could offer.

I don't know about above and beyond. Less CON = less HP for a melee character, and Khopesh is superior to Rapier.

* Ranger
Rangers tend to have some survival problems, so being a Human will help.

Huh?

* Sorcerer
Warforged.
It doesn't matter if the racial bonuses will be lower, the self healing sorcerer is far ahead of any other.

Not disputing that WF don't make good Sorcs, but I wouldn't say they're "far ahead of any other."

[DavionFuxa]

What about Dwarf? Higher CON, plus Axe Enhancements.
Warforged for stacking Power Attack Enhancements, also higher CON.

Dwarves do make good Clerics, but Dwarf Clerics do not automatically get Dwarven Axe proficiency.

Humans can have higher Intimidate if you're going for an Intimi-Tank.

I don't know about above and beyond. Less CON = less HP for a melee character, and Khopesh is superior to Rapier.

Huh?

Not disputing that WF don't make good Sorcs, but I wouldn't say they're "far ahead of any other."

He wanted an opinion, I gave him one, under the specifications he probably wants (One Race per Class). There really is no right or wrong, the above is just my current ideal thoughts for what race works best for most builds that the class might try.

My mistake on the Dwarf Clerics though.