ToD: Hard, killed Suluu, only 1 chest

[Goldeneye]

Free Companions run: did it on hard, killed horoth and suluu in 33 mins, only got 1 chest .... bug?

[Quikster]

havent seen if this is a bug or not, but definitely known by a lot of the player base. We have seen this issue for quite a while now.

[Shade]

Course it's a bug.

Just turbines thing lately has been go meh not worth fixing so we'll just say WAI and call it a day.

I like how u blurred out your hotbars too lol. I can still see you have some ring with a clicky on it! Need more Tower rings i guess? Sucks thats run never had any rings either lol.

We'll have to do elite next time I guess and see if that gets us the chest.

If not.. Gota stick with boring normal for thoses tasty +4 tomes.

[Goldeneye]

I like how u blurred out your hotbars too lol. I can still see you have some ring with a clicky on it! Need more Tower rings i guess? Sucks thats run never had any rings either lol.

Ha, yeah, this toon really needs some rings.
In the past people have de-railed my threads by commenting on my bars - I blurred them to prevent that.

[Crazyfruit]

From what I was told it requires doing more on hard than normal for the extra chest.

Supposedly it's:

- Killing Sully
- Killing 9+ portals
- Killing a ton of orthons (like 30+)

I haven't personally seen this happen so for all I know the guy was just saying BS. Was this what you were doing, or just killing him? And has anyone ever seen that second chest on hard?

[grodon9999]

Sort of OT question, how much "harder" is "hard" over normal? I getting my 75 favor to get my yugo-steroids I'd done a bunch of the Amrath stuff and hard and elite. With the exception of the end boss in "New Invasion" I didn't find hard to be that much more difficult than normal.

How much does ToD scale up?

[Shade]

Sort of OT question, how much "harder" is "hard" over normal? I getting my 75 favor to get my yugo-steroids I'd done a bunch of the Amrath stuff and hard and elite. With the exception of the end boss in "New Invasion" I didn't find hard to be that much more difficult than normal.

How much does ToD scale up?

Not much. Bosses have maybe 25-50% more hp. But the damage they deal doesn't scale much. Horoths DoTs do the same damage, spells and melee dmg increase very slightly.

Traps do allot more damage, about double.. So a good buffet into a spike wall will kill you. So part 1 does require some more skill and strategy then I see the standard pug do where everyone just goes nuts and hopes for the best.

Getting a group with enough DPS to kill Suulo and Horoth before your healers run out of SP is really the only part that gets much tougher. But with smart scroll use and WF tank on suulo getting reconstruct, it's not too bad even in non-maxxed groups.

Used to do it without bothering with sulo since his chest never had anything.. And the ring drops did noticably scale.. So if your just mostly after rings and not +4 tomes, it's not a terribly idea i guess.

[Shade]

From what I was told it requires doing more on hard than normal for the extra chest.

Supposedly it's:

- Killing Sully
- Killing 9+ portals
- Killing a ton of orthons (like 30+)

I haven't personally seen this happen so for all I know the guy was just saying BS. Was this what you were doing, or just killing him? And has anyone ever seen that second chest on hard?

I used to think it was something like that.

One run on elite we did something like that as a test. Killed every portal and orthon until they stopped spawning. Then Horoth, but not suulo. No chest.

Pretty sure it's just bugged.

[Cyr]

You must have missed the release notes:

Tower of Despair: To better sum up the despair inherent in this dungeon we have made hard difficulty truly harder by giving less loot.

In all seriousness, yes this is a big reason why I avoid this dungeon on hard.

[grodon9999]

At this time, is there any reason to run this on anything other than normal? The second chest does work there, I've seen a +4 tome with my own eyes and killing Sulu isn't that hard as long as you hate-tank.

I know more rings/trophies drop but it's not like you're not going to run it a zillion times.

[Quikster]

When the raid came out we killed sullu all the time. Never saw a tome in there though, so we stopped. We got that chest on norm, hard and elite, just by killing both bosses. Never seen a chest from killing portals and we've killed a bunch trying when the raid came out.

[Mhykke]

Yep, the chest is bugged on hard.

[Skani]

Been there, saw that.

Oh, and blur kill count as well