18/2 Wizard/Rogue in need of some *constructive* criticisms

[MrPilgrim]

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Anastria Nailo
Level 20 True Neutral Elf Female
(2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 166
Spell Points: 1366 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 7
Reflex: 12
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            16                    16
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         18                    26
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                     9
Bluff                 3                     3
Concentration         3                    24
Diplomacy             3                     3
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  7                    28
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                 -1                    -1
Listen                3                     5
Move Silently         7                    26
Open Lock             7                     7
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     8
Search                8                    14
Spot                  3                     5
Swim                 -1                    -1
Tumble                7                     7
Use Magic Device      3                    28

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Illusion


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Shadow


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity I
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum I
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Heightening I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Heightening II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery III
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery IV
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Heightening I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Heightening II
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Heightening III

hi all! so basically, my goal for this build is mainly to exploit enchantment magic, with a little bit of illusion (yes a beguiler.) i could prolly get rid of the dragonmarks for some metamagics, i was sort of going for flavor there. UMD was mainly for wand usage, should the need ever arise.

ive been looking into Ghoste's shadow mage build, got WF unlocked, but i wanted to make something of my own. (Ghoste inspired me to make this one. Cheers to you mate!)

anyways, is there anything that i could do to improve more on this?

[Agrivail]

First off I'd drop the points in dexterity and put them in constitution, then take the feat Insightful Reflexes to get INT bonus to reflex saves instead of Dexterity.

Then I have to point out how useful being warforged is, i get that your trying to be unique and if that's all you want then stay with what you have but reconstruct hit for 285 hp and only cost 35 mana there is really no reason to go anything other than warforged mainly because you are a wizard and don't take a hit for being one to INT.

But, if you insist on being elf or human or something then you should probably take the Spell DC feats like spell pen and spell focus to try to get you intsta-death spell DC's as high as you can.

[MrPilgrim]

ah, yes. i did take spell pen, greater spell pen, and some spell focus, so im good in that department. that 12 con was prolly mocking me right after posting it... ill make the switcheroonie there.

stellar advice on the insightful reflex there. jumped by about 5 points or so? what level would you recommend taking it? im kinda leaning towards taking out combat expertise for it.

any metamagics i should consider? i was thinking of enlarge or extend, something along the lines of those. im crud really when it comes to these feats.

[Ultrazen]

A couple of things I would suggest.

1. Go warforged, unless you *really* really have a thing for elves. Being able to heal yourself right out of the box with repair spells is a huge advantage, not to mention the ton of immunites you get as a warforged.

2. Use dex as a dump stat, and take insightful reflexes to use your int score for reflex saves. Your AC as a wiz is meaningless, so points into dex are a waste unless you're trying to do some kind of weird melee build, which I wouldn't recommend.

3. Don't start with 8 str, for a couple of reasons.
a. The best way to level a wiz till at least level 7, is to cast masters touch, and use the best 2 hand you can find. By far the quickest way to get through those early levels.
b. Being STR debuffed is a major pain, and something that happens a lot, especially later in the game. Having your str reduced to nothing does a whole lot of nasty things to you. I start with 14 str, especially if you go warforged as it's cheap for them. Having 14 str will also allow you to have enough to hit to make using a 2h weapon effective, even later in the game. There are a lot of situations where being able to melee trash down can really save you a lot of mana.

I'd start with 14 str, max int, and the rest in con.

In my opinion, those are sort of the basic things to get you off on the right foot.

Cheers!

[MrPilgrim]

thanks for the advice mates

the elf-ness of it was more for just flavor too, really. i'm gonna start rolling it then!

[maha0201]

i was in struggle betwean Drow and Warforged wiz/rog. Drow won my case (mainly coase i dont have 32-pt build unlocked) i started
STR 10
DEX 10
CON 14
INT 20
WIS 8
CHA 10
Startin skils 52
Took first lvl rogue with Toughness feat at start, im now lvl 13 and its fun to play. I would recomand to take Empover, Extedn, Heighten, Maximise for youre meta feats (in that order).
Skils that you need is Concentration, Disable Device, UMD,Search ,Spot (you can forget about Concetration if you use Quicken)

[unbongwah]

I think this is a good build to start with. The OP also does a nice job of explaining how to play it.

[MrPilgrim]

thank you very much for the posts havent gotten the chance to roll anything yet, so more information is a boon

i think im gonna try making that build then, unbongwah!

[Bobthesponge]

for this build i don't see combat expertise as a useful feat. at low levels you should be able to get gear to protect you from most mob's to-hit and at high levels you will never get a high enough AC for it to matter. i would suggest toughness because:

a) you will never get a high enough AC to make a difference at end game even with CE
b) as a wizzy you will be able to case displacement, stoneskin, ect to keep you alive and you will also have evasion from the rogue levels
c) 166 HP at lvl 20 will make you a drain rather than an asset to a party. mobs at that level will 1 shot you constantly and with people checking myDDO before accepting party requests you will have a very hard time finding people to run with. a base minimum of 300 HP is generally agreed on for casters.

that being said, WF is a great idea for a race because of the self healing/repairing ability and immunities, but if you go the fleshy route make sure you max out UMD and farm the golden cartouche out of delera's so that you can cast heal scrolls on yourself.

good luck and have fun!