First GS for wizzy

[ArdanosMerrow]

I know for the most part what I want to design into my items; +exc stat, concordant op, +sp etc.

What I'm looking for is help deciding what Item to make, since I don't know much about what specific endgame items are worth using as a wizzy. What slots will be open on wiz and not be taken up by anything I REALLY should be using in say trinket slot etc.

I figure I can make a dagger (or other 1 hander btw, is there any difference of making a club vs dagger) with +9 int. Although if I do that leaves me with other weapon needing to be spell pen and Lore item. Unless there is some non-weapon lore item that people usually have.

Aside from the weapon where should I be looking to put my GS, cloak, goggles, boots, etc.

Additionally, any equip advice with item name and farm location would be helpfull.

[Daehawk]

Goggles is pretty open spot for GS for a wizard.

[Sinni]

Goggles is pretty open spot for GS for a wizard.

how do you get the int then? ring?

[Daehawk]

how do you get the int then? ring?

Cloak


But yeah if you don't have that cloak you can go with ring till you get the cloak.


Or you can try to get lucky and get a:

Depending on what trinkets you have acquired.

[zm00094]

Since we're on the topic...

If I like my goggles (Tharnes for a 18 wiz/2 rog), where should it go? I'm leaning toward boots. The main problem will be boots of anchoring for ToD, but I can't think of anything else that should go there for a wiz. Am I missing something?

Things that are right out:
gloves - gloves of the glacier
bracers - bracers of the glacier
trinket - Mysterious Bauble (could be switched out after buffing), litany
necklace - torc from Demon Queen
belt - one of the Shavarath sets
cloak - reaver's napkin
boots - boots of anchoring

[Daehawk]

Since we're on the topic...

If I like my goggles (Tharnes for a 18 wiz/2 rog), where should it go? I'm leaning toward boots. The main problem will be boots of anchoring for ToD, but I can't think of anything else that should go there for a wiz. Am I missing something?

Things that are right out:
gloves - gloves of the glacier
bracers - bracers of the glacier
trinket - Mysterious Bauble (could be switched out after buffing), litany
necklace - torc from Demon Queen
belt - one of the Shavarath sets
cloak - reaver's napkin
boots - boots of anchoring

Another things for boots that people like to use for casters is Boots of the Innocent for the Resist +5, but you can get that on DT robe/docent if need be.

Question though, what do you like about the Thrane's Goggles on a caster? I believe you took the 2 Levels of rogue for the evasion yes?

[Gambill]

Or you can try to get lucky and get a:

I am now going to be grinding relentlessly for this item. Right now I have a ring for Int. +6 and GS Goggles for wizadry VI and elemental SP gains.

I have never heard of this trinket though. Definatly a must have for me.

[eunucorn]

I'm in a similar situation, but on a Sorc. I made triple pos CHA skills SP goggles (love em), a +45 HP cloak w/ conc opp (not quite finished yet), and am working on a +9 CHA heavy pick.

I'd recommend the goggle spot for your SP item as well since the 150sp you get from them will probably be all used up in buffing and then you can switch back to your Tharnes. But if you need to keep it on for the +6 CHA skills to UMD maybe boots are better.

[lurkertroll]

it's hard because the gs is easy to do, and you might accidently gimp yourself.

you would hate to be tier 2 on gs gloves the loot titans grip.

or make a cloak and finaly loot the napkin after 30 runs.

or not make a cloak and not even own GH

end game is about knowledge, muddleing through finding it on your was cute 19 lvls ago. this is serious now. spend a day looking at epic loot iq loot dream forge dragon touched amorath ect,

also plan for what you need to TR if you TR to a melee your super gs weapons with int and suff will suck for a fighter ok for a rogue.

[Sinni]

Cloak


But yeah if you don't have that cloak you can go with ring till you get the cloak.


Or you can try to get lucky and get a:

Depending on what trinkets you have acquired.

hmm... good to know the napkin has +6 int, i was planning to get it anyway

And up to now i didn't know what the Eardweller does, guess i need to try to get that one on my fvs (my wiz is only lvl 5 yet), mainly for the clickie effect

[Daehawk]

*snip*

That's why you come up with a plan to what you actually do want. But things can change while doing it in the future. Like with the release of more epics and new quests.

Just gotta keep up on info of new items that you think would best suit your character and build. And the lovely lottery known as Dragontouched.

hmm... good to know the napkin has +6 int, i was planning to get it anyway

And up to now i didn't know what the Eardweller does, guess i need to try to get that one on my fvs (my wiz is only lvl 5 yet), mainly for the clickie effect

^_^

Yeah most people just get it for the clickie + the larva to om nom nom on for SP.

[Mithran]

I went for the +9 Intelligence Scepter (Fire/Negative/Fire). Mana Goggles will likely be next.

[Phidius]

Another things for boots that people like to use for casters is Boots of the Innocent for the Resist +5, but you can get that on DT robe/docent if need be.

Question though, what do you like about the Thrane's Goggles on a caster? I believe you took the 2 Levels of rogue for the evasion yes?

Tharne's Goggles have +15 Spot and +15 Search, which is very tasty on an 18/2. One less item to swap when disabling traps...

The Backstab +5 goes very well with the 1d6 +3 the 18/2 already gets for backstab, and the True Seeing helps everyone.

Op, I went with the Stormreaver's napkin for the Int +6, and put Holy/Excpt Int + 1/Excpt Int +2 (Radiance dual shard) on my weapon.

[zm00094]

"what do you like about the Thrane's Goggles on a caster?"

I just like to be able to spot things. Also, this wiz makes use of the rogue skills as well, and, oddly enough, the +5 to attack on attacks that would qualify as sneak attacks (which is basically all attacks unless I've drawn aggro from casting) let's me actually hit some things when we're mowing through trash mobs. It's more fun than just standing in the back watching or shooting a bow.

None of it is the least bit uber, I know, but it makes me happy.

[oweieie]

"what do you like about the Thrane's Goggles on a caster?"

I just like to be able to spot things.

There is exactly 1 thing in the game I've encountered that having spot skill does anything at all for and thats the one beholder on the way to Hound.

Look at it this way. Whats the range on Wail of the Banshee? Yeah.

http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...guard_&altar=3

For 2 scales you get a decent guard, +150 SP and +6 UMD/haggle. Or... you can up your spot. Casters looting tharne's is just sad.

[zm00094]

Now see, there's no reason to try to spoil my fun. I specifically stated that the Tharnes goggles aren't uber for this build in order to head off this sort of comment.

In any case, I have an 18 sorc and a capped wiz. The sorc can't seen anything and the wiz has a spot around 55. The difference is very obvious to me while I am playing and I like the feel of the wiz.

Now, on to your suggested crafted item. I feel like this exact crafted item would be a mistake for 3 reasons. 1) It has wizardry VI, which is on many of the wizard raid loot items, so this is quite likely to be redundant. 2) If you are going to complain about my spot, then I can complain about your charisma skills. What's the point? UMD isn't UBER either 3) this item doesn't have concordant opposition. The item may be cheap to make, but you get what you pay for.

Obviously, this is only my opinion, but the two options that are best for a first greensteel item are 1) concordant opposition on a wearable item or 2) +3 exceptional INT on a weapon.

[DANTEIL]

So I haven't yet attempted to figure out the Shroud crafting system... >soo... confusing...< but since I've now accumulated some of the ingredients I know that at some point soon I'll be giving it a whirl. In thinking about it, though, I've been leaning toward crafting some Bracers (since my current ones are near useless) -- is there any reason why I shouldn't? The recommendation here seems to be Goggles, but that doesn't seem to appeal to me as much. How much does it really matter? And while I'm asking, how is "Exceptional" intelligence different from normal +2 INT?

[Phidius]

There is exactly 1 thing in the game I've encountered that having spot skill does anything at all for and thats the one beholder on the way to Hound.

Look at it this way. Whats the range on Wail of the Banshee? Yeah.

http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delalle...guard_&altar=3

For 2 scales you get a decent guard, +150 SP and +6 UMD/haggle. Or... you can up your spot. Casters looting tharne's is just sad.

Sigh... you do know that traps need Spot to detect, and Search to find the control box, right?

My casters use Goggles of Intuition/Spot +15/Search +15 until they get their Tharne's Goggles.

And how exactly does Spot help with the "one" beholder on the way to HoX, anyway? I'm afraid you lost me on this one...

[Phidius]

So I haven't yet attempted to figure out the Shroud crafting system... >soo... confusing...< but since I've now accumulated some of the ingredients I know that at some point soon I'll be giving it a whirl. In thinking about it, though, I've been leaning toward crafting some Bracers (since my current ones are near useless) -- is there any reason why I shouldn't? The recommendation here seems to be Goggles, but that doesn't seem to appeal to me as much. How much does it really matter? And while I'm asking, how is "Exceptional" intelligence different from normal +2 INT?

I think the current favorite for the Bracer's slot is the Bracers of the Glacier... Archmagi, Spell Pen 8, part of the Glacier set, and Fire Shield (cold) guard.

For example, the way that I play my caster is to use the Glacier set while buffing and nuking bosses, and switch gloves/bracer for more mundane uses.

If you don't plan on getting into combat, Goggles are a good spot. I'm kinda torn between gloves (7 finger gloves) and bracer (Bracers of the Glacier).

[Daehawk]

Yeah I know spot is good. One of the things I kept skill points in on my 20 pure wiz. The Sneak attack on it is why I was wondering, since I tend to not melee that much as my Spell pool is fine between shrines since I tend to just death things. GSF: Necromancy + Upgraded Death's Touch. Granted that doesn't work on epic.

Triple Pos GS items are cheap I think that's why people make them. Honestly my first one I made on my wizard was a Neg/Pos/Pos Con Opp. Blindness/Disease + 50SP/+2Cha + 100SP/+3Cha Skills and Stalemate + Con Opp goggles. I like Blindness and Disease Immune, being blind sucks ass. And it's easy to get Wizardry items. I have Wizardry VII on the Hound ring right now and working on getting my Archmage belt.