Shields used as weapons

**Thorboar** · 03-30-2010, 01:51 PM

While watching the show Spartacus, I noticed the gladiators were using their shields not only for blocking (of course) but as weapons also, kinda like two weapon fighting in DDO. Not only do they bash with the flat side of the shield, but also would angle the shield to strike with the edge. I have noticed this in other movies too, such as Gladiator.
I know you can shield bash in the game, but its not the same as you see in the show or movies. So I was thinking it would be nice to be able to use a shield more as a weapon sorta like two weapon fighting. Maybe have a feat that allows you to include a shield strike within the attack chain, which would add an extra attack. Maybe a fighter feat line or something similar to the tempest line.
I know this would be a lot of work on the dev side, but I think it would bring something to the sword and board fighter.

edit: By the way, the suggestion I'm making is using the shield within the attack chain while welding a sword.....just to be clear...

**jcTharin** · 03-30-2010, 01:59 PM

i want to dual wield shields!

**Thorboar** · 03-30-2010, 02:30 PM

How about a Vorpal shield.......

**Angelus_dead** · 03-30-2010, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Thorboar

I know this would be a lot of work on the dev side, but I think it would bring something to the sword and board fighter.

A suggestion that's been around forever:
In addition to the other effects, the Improved Shield Bash feats gain a toggle ability to insert shield-bash attempts into your regular attack sequence.

That change would improve game balance by lessening the damage sacrifice of S&B specialized characters.

**BangsLiekWhoa** · 03-30-2010, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by jcTharin

i want to dual wield shields!

That's like double the armor class!

**EAB** · 03-30-2010, 02:43 PM

@Thorboar I love the idea of duel wielding shields. I love the idea of adding to DR by blocking with them. Also, I love the idea even more of each shield adding to your AC. Far trade off as you are doing way less DPS. However, there should be a fighter feat required to take it.

**Grampybone** · 03-30-2010, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Angelus_dead

A suggestion that's been around forever:
In addition to the other effects, the Improved Shield Bash feats gain a toggle ability to insert shield-bash attempts into your regular attack sequence.

That change would improve game balance by lessening the damage sacrifice of S&B specialized characters.

I think it would be cool.
This could also bring about the chance to bring
I unique shield weapons like on the Scottish Targe.

It posesses a spike on the face of the shield that
can be used to impale opponents.

**BangsLiekWhoa** · 03-30-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by EAB

@Thorboar I love the idea of duel wielding shields. I love the idea of adding to DR by blocking with them. Also, I love the idea even more of each shield adding to your AC. Far trade off as you are doing way less DPS. However, there should be a fighter feat required to take it.

Pretty sure he is making a reference to Unforgotten Realms.

I suppose I could be wrong though...

**Thorboar** · 03-30-2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by EAB

@Thorboar I love the idea of duel wielding shields. I love the idea of adding to DR by blocking with them. Also, I love the idea even more of each shield adding to your AC. Far trade off as you are doing way less DPS. However, there should be a fighter feat required to take it.

My suggestion originally wasn't to duel wield shields, but while in a sword and board stance, you can include the shield attack in the attack sequence. But, duel wielding shields would be cool too.

**Alanim** · 03-30-2010, 03:51 PM

They should also get the ability to have all blunt enhancement's like bone-breaking/maldroit/etc. then I can have stat damagers/curse spewing/etc. dual shields. How great that would be. How great that would be.

**Failedlegend** · 03-31-2010, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Thorboar

While watching the show Spartacus which has NOTHING to do with DnD, I noticed the gladiators were using their shields not only for blocking (of course) but as weapons also, kinda like shield bash in DDO. I have noticed this in other movies too, such as Gladiator which also has NOTHING to do with DnD.

I know this would be a lot of work for no reason on the dev side, but I think it would be fun for a few laughs

[sarcasm]And in Star wars they have blasters & Lightsabers we should totally add those....or or I KNOW I KNOW maybe the BFG from Doom or some Attack choppers... SO AWESOME!!![/sarcasm]

In short no. there's no reason to waste Devs time on this they already have a long list of promises to fulfill (and things to fix) without them wasting time on something useless like this.

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**LazarusPossum** · 03-31-2010, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

[sarcasm]And in Star wars they have blasters & Lightsabers we should totally add those....or or I KNOW I KNOW maybe the BFG from Doom or some Attack choppers... SO AWESOME!!![/sarcasm]

I get the feeling the light saber in Silent Hill 3 would be a waste for you.

**Failedlegend** · 03-31-2010, 01:39 AM

oh and if some Dev actually adds the ability to dual wield/fight with shields I want my WF to be able to dual wield Halflings as clubs it's just as ridiculous

**QuantumFX** · 03-31-2010, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

[sarcasm]And in Star wars they have blasters & Lightsabers we should totally add those....or or I KNOW I KNOW maybe the BFG from Doom or some Attack choppers... SO AWESOME!!![/sarcasm]

In short I am someone who knows nothing about D&D. there's no reason for me to waste my time on actually reading a D&D sourcebook or what the d20 SRD actually has to say about Shield Bashing in combat.

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**Failedlegend** · 03-31-2010, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by QuantumFX

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Yeah shield BASHING we have that already not dual wielding shields and using it as a primary weapon...that's it I officially lot this suggestion with this one http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...24&postcount=1

Also while I'm at we DO have some named items with shield spikes here's one of em: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...gisofFlame.jpg

oh and next time you neg rep someone make sure they deserve it....I'm just fed up with people suggesting dumb things and cluttering up the suggestion thread it just slows the Devs down

**QuantumFX** · 03-31-2010, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

Yeah shield BASHING we have that already not dual wielding shields and using it as a primary weapon...that's it I officially lot this suggestion with this one http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...24&postcount=1

Also while I'm at we DO have some named items with shield spikes here's one of em: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...gisofFlame.jpg

oh and next time you neg rep someone make sure they deserve it....I'm just fed up with people suggesting dumb things and cluttering up the suggestion thread it just slows the Devs down

Well, you posted a lie and tried to pass it off as fact. You didn't just deserve the neg rep. You earned it.

**Failedlegend** · 03-31-2010, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by QuantumFX

Well, you posted a lie and tried to pass it off as fact. You didn't just deserve the neg rep. You earned it.

Ok genius point out to me which one of these is a lie...maybe I missed something (pulled from my previous posts)

- Spartacus has NOTHING to do with DnD

- Gladiator has NOTHING to do with DnD

- DDO already has shield bash

- DDO has shield spikes too see: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...gisofFlame.jpg

**QuantumFX** · 03-31-2010, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

Ok genius point out to me which one of these is a lie...maybe I missed something (pulled from my previous posts)

- Spartacus has NOTHING to do with DnD

- Gladiator has NOTHING to do with DnD

- DDO already has shield bash

- DDO has shield spikes too see: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...gisofFlame.jpg

Your lie is: Shield bash is working properly.

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

kinda like shield bash in DDO.

You also love to distort the OP's request. (Which is also lying)

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

Yeah shield BASHING we have that already not dual wielding shields and using it as a primary weapon...that's it I officially lot this suggestion with this one http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...24&postcount=1

**Failedlegend** · 03-31-2010, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by QuantumFX

Your lie is: Shield bash is working properly.

lol w/e I give up have fun in your little world where your always right

**Thorboar** · 03-31-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Failedlegend

[sarcasm]And in Star wars they have blasters & Lightsabers we should totally add those....or or I KNOW I KNOW maybe the BFG from Doom or some Attack choppers... SO AWESOME!!![/sarcasm]

In short no. there's no reason to waste Devs time on this they already have a long list of promises to fulfill (and things to fix) without them wasting time on something useless like this.

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Wow.......Spartacus has nothing to do with DnD?.....no $#*!......but swords and shields have everything to do with DnD......because Spartacus is in a different world than DnD, the physics do not work the same for swords and shields? All I did was made an observation on how swords and shields were being used on a show and movies.....probadly how they really used them. I think you missed the point of my "dumb idea". And oh yea.....neg rep....you deserve it.....

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