Cleric Crazy SP

[barongt]

My raid healbot FvS has 3117 SP.
http://my.ddo.com/character/ghallanda/dakus/

[Kralgnax]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One
Some people have epeen problems and need to claim their blue bline is bigger than it is.

Why would you write something like that?

Because it's true?

[Kalari]

I used to think hmm how can I get my clerics max sp to till I realized that just playing carefully I can take just about any amount of sp and make it work for myself and my party without needing resources. Right now my only divine type with over 2000 sp is my favored soul.

My level 20 cleric with a shroud item will maybe get over 2000 but it wont stop the way I heal I dont think having tons of sp is as important as learning how to use yours. Sorry if this comes across as lecture like but I see to many up and coming clerics worrying about such things when it wont matter, if you dont learn how to utilize them you can have 5000 sp and they would still be burned out by babying bad play or using your sp unwisely.

[Loceish]

My cleric has 2223 sp right now, still need a +4 wisdom tome, and exceptional wisdom 2. Unfortunately I made a halfing XD soo I'm missing out a little on the enhancements, but I try to make up for it by well, being efficient with my mana.

http://my.ddo.com/character/sarlona/isenanof/

[AvatarJeffy]

My main cleric is a halfling 28 point build I rolled in Beta and does just fine with 2k SP.

http://my.ddo.com/character/ghallanda/eir/

Like many have alrady stated, it's not about how many SP you have, it's how you manage it.

~E

[bukfenc]

Here is my calculation:

Wisdom: 18(base)+3(tome)+6(lvl)+3(enhancement)+8(item)+3(i nsight)+1(exceptional) = 42

Spell Points:
Class: 1205
42 WIS: 464
Mental Toughness: 105
Improved Mental Toughness: 105
Epic Mental Toughness: 200
Cleric Enhancement: 110
Wizardry IX: 225
GS sp item: 150
3 sorcerer past life: 60
3 favored soul past life: 60
Sorcerer past life feat (not free): 105
Exalted Angel 5 automatic abilities: 300
Endless Faith III (Exalted Angel): +10% sp = 308
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Sum: 3397

If you are Dwarf you can have Dwarven Faith IV (+60) and +6 because of the Endless Faith 10%
If you put some destiny points into Wisdom (I calculate with +4 WIS): 58+5,8 (Endless Faith)= 64

So my total SP with Cleric will be 3527, and I'm sure that I forgot a few things.

[donfilibuster]

That's enough sp to raise a thread from death
Anyways is good to have the updated breakdown.

[pizzandew]

+30 more stacking SP with a Cunning Trinket if that helps
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Item:Cunning_Trinket

[donfilibuster]

+30 more stacking SP with a Cunning Trinket if that helps
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Item:Cunning_Trinket

Text is now fixed, had always been giving 50

[Sonos]

That's enough sp to raise a thread from death
Anyways is good to have the updated breakdown.

Lol! I was reading the whole thread wondering why no one is mentioning Wizardry IX or epic levels :P. I'm tired and need to go home. I was hypnotized by the necro and didn't even realize it.

[countfitz]

To answer the OP's question: 2000. That is a nice round number you can attain, people will respect it, and it will work just fine in any raid or quest, even on EE.

You'll want to try to get some of the more basic items to do this right away, archmagi or better item, wis +6 or better, +3 Wis tome (easily attainable now) and all your level ups and enhancements in Wis.

Things you'll want to help out later: GS con op with extra spell points (some named items have these now, you can look into "Elemental Spell Power" items for this), a Torc, a Bauble, a Twisted Talisman AND an epic twisted Talisman, make sure you take the Korthos necklace that gives SP too, if not... TRing is the only way to get it.

Finally, make sure your radiant servant PrE is enhanced as much as possible, that saves insane amounts of SP, with the best extra turn items, extra turn enhancements, and Devotion Power/Lore items.

[DrunkenBuddha]

To answer the unspoken question: 2 years, 6 months, 21 days.

That is the power of this necro

[hockeyrama]

with ship buffs, large guild slot item, twists and such i am just under 3500sp when in exalted angel on my pure cleric. No past lives, first lifer. Will log on later and show how I get it.

As for gimping yourself it not true. You are maxing your wisdom as much as possible so +8 item, +3 on chitlin breastplate, +1 on tod ring. This maxes out dc's. Then you can add a few wis with twists and take a few wis in your destiny as well.

The key is max wis and losing optional feats. Toughnes, mental toughness, improved mental toughness, Epic mental toughness, maximize, empower healing, quicken, evo focus, greater evo, epic evo focus are the feats. I lost extend - don't need it as only really used it for recitation. Lost empower, with heal stick devotion 120 and all the healing you have you will have an insane aura and empower does not impact it and you will overheal everyone anyway on a mass heal. Empower was just making spells cost too much. Was really only useful on dots but they are still maximized.

With the higher wis -over 50 and teh evo focus you get a pretty good implosion and can get rid of trash on you and lead kill counts if you want to go around killing.

The key is wisdom. When I log on later will let you know what his sp is but last time i was in exalted was over 3400 but would need to do some work to get over 3500.

Saviours from thelanis

[hockeyrama]

Yes, necro thread but still a good one to update. FVS still kick butt but for a cleric I can give a good breakdown.

I never make my epic destiny moment so may reset my destiny so may hit 3500sp which is fine for a cleric. if i forget about the estiny moment can take a few more wis points and twist in a few wis from grandmaster, shiradi and the still keep eldless turning (like the 30% boost to turn regen). When i farm out more I can add an echoes from bard for 25 more sp and 1 charisma and lose the turning to show max 2p (unless an extra wis point hits a level).

So way I see it is:
18 base wis, 7 on levels, +3 tome (don't have a 4 yet), +3 cleric enhance, +1 human enhance, +8 item, +3 exc, +1 insight=44
in exalted slot the 3 to get the 10% sp and then 6 wis and purity for 10% amp (or use other 3 points any way you want, i just testing aura right now).
then twist endless turning, wis, wis
52 wis, 54 with yugo
225 archmagi ring
50 trinket cove
110 cleric
mental tough
improved mental
epic mental
420
gs item 150
cleric base 1205
300 exalted
54 wis =638
might be missing somethign will update later

[Miow]

Here is my calculation:

Wisdom: 18(base)+3(tome)+6(lvl)+3(enhancement)+8(item)+3(i nsight)+1(exceptional) = 42

Spell Points:
Class: 1205
42 WIS: 464
Mental Toughness: 105
Improved Mental Toughness: 105
Epic Mental Toughness: 200
Cleric Enhancement: 110
Wizardry IX: 225
GS sp item: 150
3 sorcerer past life: 60
3 favored soul past life: 60
Sorcerer past life feat (not free): 105
Exalted Angel 5 automatic abilities: 300
Endless Faith III (Exalted Angel): +10% sp = 308
----------------------------------------
Sum: 3397

If you are Dwarf you can have Dwarven Faith IV (+60) and +6 because of the Endless Faith 10%
If you put some destiny points into Wisdom (I calculate with +4 WIS): 58+5,8 (Endless Faith)= 64

So my total SP with Cleric will be 3527, and I'm sure that I forgot a few things.

6 months later :P

[RabidApathy]

6 months later :P

6 months? Try 30 months. What was once long dead, lives again.

[Anthios888]

So much crazy effort to max the spell points, but not wearing a large guild augment slot item.

[hockeyrama]

Yes, necro thread but still a good one to update. FVS still kick butt but for a cleric I can give a good breakdown.

I never make my epic destiny moment so may reset my destiny so may hit 3500sp which is fine for a cleric. if i forget about the estiny moment can take a few more wis points and twist in a few wis from grandmaster, shiradi and the still keep eldless turning (like the 30% boost to turn regen). When i farm out more I can add an echoes from bard for 25 more sp and 1 charisma and lose the turning to show max sp (unless an extra wis point hits a level).

So way I see it is:
18 base wis, 7 on levels, +3 tome (don't have a 4 yet), +3 cleric enhance, +1 human enhance, +8 item, +3 exc, +1 insight=44
in exalted slot the 3 to get the 10% sp and then 6 wis and purity for 10% amp (or use other 3 points any way you want, i just testing aura right now).
then twist endless turning, wis, wis
52 wis, 54 with yugo
225 archmagi ring
50 trinket cove
110 cleric
mental tough
improved mental
epic mental
420
gs item 150
cleric base 1205
300 exalted
large slot 80
54 wis =638
might be missing somethign will update later

so when added up that comes to 3452 no yugo. Add some past lives and include yugo and easy over 3500. WIth all the aura healing I do i end up using most my sp for implosions, dots and buffs. If i went fvs could probalby hit close to 4500 but then would lost alot of sp to actually cast spells to heal.

[hockeyrama]

if i put the past life work in add sorc for 105 sp, and 60, and 60 as shown above

total would be 3700sp without yugo.

Point of note this is not my usual sp when i play. I swap the 225sp ring and the trinket for teh 250sp erudition trinket and a healing amp tod ring. So lose 25 sp from that but it is pretty close. Still over 3400. My large slot is a shield and I swap it out after buffing for a devotion 120 evo focus 2 stick to go along with agony (this will change one i get twilight) to hit my aura (or when in heal bot mode) and then I also have necro 3, rad 120 stick that i swap in for dotting. Have the cloak for caster for dcs as well.


I love having the extra sp but often find it better to be in sentinel and find running around with just under 1000hps on a cleric who has a powerful aura. It is nice to be able to be with the melee and not have to worry about it. Only time i dont is if the enemy casts alot of cometfalls as i cant heal if on my butt.

[hockeyrama]

dont have alot of time and did not want to pay crazy sum to redo exalted. So anyway, missing +1 exceptional ring and 1 wis from only have 2 wis slotted, and not wearing +3 wis armor (had on my con 8 one so would get one more theere as only have +2 exc now) and only have 5 wis slotted in exalted to try for epic moment so with 4 less possible wis then can add yugo I have 3444 and again no past lives.

Was busy and not alot of time so setup quickly and took the pic.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ricspshot.jpg/