Link to epic dq vid

[vyvy3369]

It's DC 80, so +79 is the target.

[Quikster]

Who the heck says we run with 3 cleric/fvs.. I have run in there with one bard as healer and no that is not typical, but just this last set had 2 clerics on most runs and even no bard on one of them. An experienced melee knows what to do enough said.

I am overstating things, but the problem I have always had with the one trick pony intimidate characters is two fold: 1. you have to carry them through much of the content while they get the gear especially if we are talking about the super high intimidate shield bearing characters. Fundamentally, they take longer to kill things and contribute less. 2. the whole playstyle is boring. I just hit the intimidate button over and over and the other guys spoon what a bunch of XXXX. In the DQ raid its easy for a melee to melee, a ranged to range, and caster to cast. It is not rocket sceince by any means so why do you Quick need an intimidate character that you have to gimp through all the other raids. We all know you are a solid player so why this drivel.

My guildie cleen has a nice rogue, the hurtlocker, that does good dps, but can throw on the shield and intimidate as do others I know of so I am not totally against or foreign to the concept it is just as a way of things it sucks.

Lol, just wow. So now im a gimp, ok gotcha. Thanks for the complement.

[Cetus]

So thats a 79 confirmed? Thanks. Awesome method.

[Quikster]

So thats a 79 confirmed? Thanks. Awesome method.

yeah shade confirmed this while still on lamania.

[moops]

As a healer, it blows my mind how much easier this raid is with an intimatank. Last run like this I did with my cleric, not only did I finish with half a blue bar, but most of the SP that I did use was for DPS on the queen. I didnt even have to heal the intimtank much. Its just nice when she stays in one place--its less chaotic, you dont get people getting chopped up because they had a lag spike or were washing their hands

[Cashiry]

Who the heck says we run with 3 cleric/fvs.. I have run in there with one bard as healer and no that is not typical, but just this last set had 2 clerics on most runs and even no bard on one of them. An experienced melee knows what to do enough said.

I am overstating things, but the problem I have always had with the one trick pony intimidate characters is two fold: 1. you have to carry them through much of the content while they get the gear especially if we are talking about the super high intimidate shield bearing characters. Fundamentally, they take longer to kill things and contribute less. 2. the whole playstyle is boring. I just hit the intimidate button over and over and the other guys spoon what a bunch of XXXX. In the DQ raid its easy for a melee to melee, a ranged to range, and caster to cast. It is not rocket sceince by any means so why do you Quick need an intimidate character that you have to gimp through all the other raids. We all know you are a solid player so why this drivel.

My guildie cleen has a nice rogue, the hurtlocker, that does good dps, but can throw on the shield and intimidate as do others I know of so I am not totally against or foreign to the concept it is just as a way of things it sucks.

lol...

I can do Epic tanking with a 42 blocking DR, have enough intim to get her on a roll of a 1, and have a 89 raid buffed ac.

TWF Khopesh for all other contetnt.. with a 36 str, and a self buffed 63 ac out of stance, no CE...

There is a time and place to tank up.. and my dps is just fine with PA.... so there are some tank builds who can handle all the content and be effective in any situation.

Build is 18 fighter, 2 pally

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

nice video - next time post the sound so we can hear everyone calling Quik a piker...

Garth

[Quikster]

nice video - next time post the sound so we can hear everyone calling Quik a piker...

Garth

Ill try to get the quality cleaned up so we can see it in party chat course this way i dont have to worry about anyone getting mad i used them in my vid without permission

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Who the heck says we run with 3 cleric/fvs.. I have run in there with one bard as healer and no that is not typical, but just this last set had 2 clerics on most runs and even no bard on one of them. An experienced melee knows what to do enough said.

I am overstating things, but the problem I have always had with the one trick pony intimidate characters is two fold: 1. you have to carry them through much of the content while they get the gear especially if we are talking about the super high intimidate shield bearing characters. Fundamentally, they take longer to kill things and contribute less. 2. the whole playstyle is boring. I just hit the intimidate button over and over and the other guys spoon what a bunch of XXXX. In the DQ raid its easy for a melee to melee, a ranged to range, and caster to cast. It is not rocket sceince by any means so why do you Quick need an intimidate character that you have to gimp through all the other raids. We all know you are a solid player so why this drivel.

My guildie cleen has a nice rogue, the hurtlocker, that does good dps, but can throw on the shield and intimidate as do others I know of so I am not totally against or foreign to the concept it is just as a way of things it sucks.

Look, I'm not saying that one way is necessarily significantly better than the other, I'm saying that both can work very effectively and that the difference is very small. I've had the pleasure of running with you in some of your mostly-guild runs of this, and in the two times I've done it with you, we've had 3 healers; that's where I got the number.

As a matter of fact, I have never done this with an intimitank, and every run I've done has been smooth and fast. The no-intimitank method clearly works, and works well. But I take issue with you saying that the intimitank strategy "sucks as a way of doing things"--it clearly works, and it clearly works well also, and if there is any slight difference in time taken, it is hardly noticeable.

Depending on the group makeup, either strategy could potentially work slightly better or worse than the other; to say that one method just plain "sucks" seems a little foolish and dismissive.

Just my 2cp, though.

[Roman]

1. you have to carry them through much of the content while they get the gear especially if we are talking about the super high intimidate shield bearing characters.

That sounds like just about any melee build. Until a build gets properly geared it isnt going to perform at 100%.

Fundamentally, they take longer to kill things and contribute less. 2. the whole playstyle is boring. I just hit the intimidate button over and over ...

Are you really that inconvenienced by the one tank that is killing trash 20% slower? And as for boring, is it all that different than just mashing the attack button over and over?

Personally I like intimi tanks. The problem is that there are so few good ones that pugs are generally not familiar with the tactics available with one and get all bent because they arn't puting out monser DPS. It's just a different approach.

[Judo]

we just go in with 2-3 healers, 1 caster, rest melee

1 "round" (assuming your rounds are what come in between the 2 dm texts)

0 pots

to each his own i guess, dont see the point in belittling another style

unless its hamster style

[Gyries]

Nice vid Quik.

[archangelspeed]

Nice Vid Quik,
it's unfortunate you were called a gimp tank.

mostly cause you're clearly a piker. *smile*

but nice vid. It was hard to see but on average how much was each hit doing?

-Angel

[darkwalker]

nice vid quik and yes imtim is fun i benn using imtim sense beta way back alot didnt use it but i always used it on skidmark and it works wonders skid no 79 intim but he does well with his 50


ps leave quik alone he was nice enough to post a vid on intim the epic dq

[Thelmallen]

to each his own i guess, dont see the point in belittling another style

Good point. Some people just can't seem to understand that, however.

[Verimont]

Hey Quik, how high was your Intim, I couldnt really read the numbers from the video

[Quikster]

Hey Quik, how high was your Intim, I couldnt really read the numbers from the video

in that raid I was at 80.

Shade has been nice enogh to help me get better quality vid, just working out how to get a music track down. Once I get it I'll repost it.

[soupertc]

I thought I would ad this link here to let people see the reaction that there is more than 1 way to do things in this game since it's hard for some to understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_S5cXbXe-4

[Quikster]

OK new edit up, should be much easier to see.

[smatt]

holding her still so everyone else can unload on here more than makes up for the loss of one melee, also bringing one less healer would help too. Casters can ensure spells always land on here, nobody needs to range unless they are just super squishy.

All this is moot anyway imo as the raid doesnt take any longer than 10 min or so depending on how buff happy your group is. So really is it a huge deal? IMO its much easier to say, ok we got a cleric, a tank, a caster, lets fill the group with whoever, then have to worry about bringing heavy hitters with enough hp to stand toe to toe with her.

10 minutes... NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! It must be no more thna 9:47.222344534333 Period!


Nice Vid!