Perfect End-Game Gear for Kensei WF

[Goldeneye]

My TR fighter just hit level 20 and needs some epic-gear.
With the introduction of epic content, and crafting on ToD rings, I am unsure of what would be the perfect gear layout.

What do you guys think would be the ultimate gear for a Level 20 Warforged TWF Kensei III

Head: Min II Helm
Goggles: Tharnes
Docent: Dragontouched Docent: Res+5 or Healing 10% , Crushing wave?, Earthen Guard/Destruction?
Bracers: Levicks
Boots: Madstone
Gloves: Epic Spectral Gloves + Crafted Res+4
Ring1: Kensei Ring w/ +2 Exc Strength
Ring2: Frenzy Ring
Belt: Frenzy Belt
Cloak: Some form of greensteel??
Necklace: Kensei Necklace
Trinket: Epic Bloodstone / Litany of the Dead

[Goldeneye]

I'm constantly surprised how much of the Epic gear is ****. What else am I forgetting? What items would you add/move around?

[Baahb3]

The Titan Grip gloves as well as the Quori Forged Docent from Mindsunder are both decent as well, more so if you go through the grind to upgrade them.

[Goldeneye]

Titan's Grip gloves and Quorforged Docent are nice by themselves... but I only see them temporary at best. Because many of the properties they carry will be on Tower of Depair, and other gear... it's hard to justify their spots on your character.

Gloves of Titan's Grip
Strength +6, - will be on both the Kensei and Frenzy ring
Repair Systems, - 1 hp per 15 seconds? Nifty to use if you expect to get incap.
Titan's Grip - on Krythan, I just use these gloves as a clicky - click, and swap back to Spectral Gloves

Quorforged Docent of Battle
Reinforced Plating +2, - already exists on DT
Constitution +6, - already on Frenzy Belt
Will Save -2, - doesn't matter
Superior False Life, - only 10hp more then GFL on Frenzy belt
Toughness - already exists on Minos Helm... possibly useful if you put something GS on your helm slot....

Titan's Gloves Review: best used as a clicky.... not worth a slot on my character

Docent Review: Assuming I make a Min II helm... this docent will give me an extra 30 HP (10 from SFL, 20 from toughness).... it's hard to justify that that is better then what Dragontouched offers.

[Goldeneye]

In the perfect world, what other Greensteel Item should I make? I have an essence of cleansing sitting in the bank....

[BlackSteel]

u'll want the ravager set for most mobs, beats the frenzy set hands down.


epic dragon helm, and pick up heavy fort on the docent instead (altho you'd have to swap back to min2 helm or minos for using DoD)

[Rameses]

I like where you are going with this.
Ideally my Kensai (level 14 atm) in the making will be geared as follows as time passes.

Head: Greensteel Helm: MinII
Goggles: Tharnes Goggles
Body: Dragontouched Outfit: Res+5 ,Corrosive Salt Guard, Earthgrab Guard
Bracers: Greensteel Bracers: Con Opp.
Boots: Madstone/Feather Fall/Spiked Boots
Gloves: Epic Spectral Gloves + Crafted Res+4
Ring1: Veriks Ring: +2 Exceptional Str Crafted
Ring2: Ring of the Ravager: +2 Exceptional Con Crafted
Belt: Ravager Belt
Cloak: Greensteel: Lightning Blast or Air Guard
Necklace: Kensei Necklace
Trinket: Bloodstone

I am, Rameses!

[Goldeneye]

Blacksteel, you have a good point.... I wasn't sure if I should plan for the Epic Dragon Helm. Practically, I don't see myself creating a gear layout that relies on it... because of how hard it would to get..... though STR+7 is very nice.

[Goldeneye]

I think I'm gonna go ahead and craft a Min2 Helm.... I don't feel like grinding 'til my eyes bleed to get the Red Dragon Helm :P

[hydra_ex]

Agreed; with one small exception: Guards are not all that special. Sure, they're theoretically impressive, but I don't see a benefit in them at all. So, I take an upgraded quorforged docent, and a resistance +4 cloak instead.

[maddmatt70]

I would not choose the spectral gloves because fighters almost never miss even with warforge power attack. What gives the most dps? It really is a tough call: one setup which is interesting is the following and likely provides the highest dps:
Red dragon docent
Litany of the Dead
Epic Bracers of the Hunter or Wretched Twilight
Mentau Goggles

That actually might be the highest dps you can get for a wf with dual khopesh.

Another one is:
Epic Bloodstone
Tharnes
Red Dragon Docent

It is actually a tough call between the shintao tod set and kensai tod set even with the kensai to-hit bonuses because of the added damage.

In order to get +7 strength I would favor the red dragon helm what that means is player has to make a mineral 2 shroud item for the heavy fort and goes without toughness unless they place it on the red dragon docent.

Ideal Setup:
Litany of the Dead / Epic Bloodstone where true sight needed
Red Dragon Helm with +6 dex
Mentau Goggles, Tharnes where true sight needed
Shintao or Kensai Neck dending on if higher to - hit or 2 more kensai boosts needed.
Red dragon armor with toughness
Wretched Twilight
Epic Kundarek Bracer with +6 wis
Mineral 2 Glove +45 hp.
FB Belt
FB Ring +2 str
Shintao Ring +2 con or Kensai +2 con
Boots: Madstone/Kundarek/Firestorm Greaves

Edit: you probably want to get healing amp in here if you do not run with wf reconstructors. Easy swap for that is a reaver refuge docent with healing amp on it.

[hydra_ex]

To add on a bit to the litany+mentau's vs epic bloodstone and tharne's debate, let me say this:

Khopesh has a crit power of 15/20 =0.75 (5/20 crit, *3 multipler)

Litany: +1 dmg, (+2 if STR becomes even). Mentau's +4 Seeker.

So, Litany increase is [(1*14)+(3*5)]/20 = 1.45 (2.9 STR is even) and mentau's is 3. So thats 4.45 dmg/hit increase (5.9 if STR bracket is met)

Now, for epic bloodstone+tharnes:
Epic bloodstone is +8 seeker, while tharne's is 8 dmg. I will include a separate heading for with/without agro.

Epic bloodstone is and increase of 6, which already beats litany+mentau's. Tharne's adds on another 7.6 dmg per hit onto that.

However, Litany+mentau's is better (assuming you have even STR) if the enemy has any foritification whatsoever and you have agro. If you do not have agro, litany+mentau's is only better with 100% fortification.
Assuming you do not have even STR, then mentau's+litany is better if you do not have agro at 75% fort. Without agro, its only better with 100% fort.

[maddmatt70]

To add on a bit to the litany+mentau's vs epic bloodstone and tharne's debate, let me say this:

Khopesh has a crit power of 15/20 =0.75 (5/20 crit, *3 multipler)

Litany: +1 dmg, (+2 if STR becomes even). Mentau's +4 Seeker.

So, Litany increase is [(1*14)+(3*5)]/20 = 1.45 (2.9 STR is even) and mentau's is 3. So thats 4.45 dmg/hit increase (5.9 if STR bracket is met)

Now, for epic bloodstone+tharnes:
Epic bloodstone is +8 seeker, while tharne's is 8 dmg. I will include a separate heading for with/without agro.

Epic bloodstone is and increase of 6, which already beats litany+mentau's. Tharne's adds on another 7.6 dmg per hit onto that.

However, Litany+mentau's is better (assuming you have even STR) if the enemy has any foritification whatsoever and you have agro. If you do not have agro, litany+mentau's is only better with 100% fortification.
Assuming you do not have even STR, then mentau's+litany is better if you do not have agro at 75% fort. Without agro, its only better with 100% fort.

Yes but since we are talking about perfect gear I would throw the wretched twilight or epic bracers of the hunter into the equation as well.

[hydra_ex]

Given my perfect gear setup, my cloak would be resistance; the bracers would probably be levik's to help with healing amp; my docent is the quorforged docent. I suppose optimally the gear setup would chance depending on where on the DPS-survivability range you want. Eventually the DPS increase becomes negligible, while the survivability becomes more and more important.

[Goldeneye]

maddmatt70 / hydra_ex, you are both right on.
The perfect gear set (of course) is very situational.

I'm currently working on how to increase this character's Healing Amp.
What I have now is:

• Levick Bracers 20%
• Fleshmaker necklace 10%
• Eldritch on Dragontouched 10%
• Healer's Friend 1: 15%

The total increase here is relatively small.. but I'm surprised at the number of clerics that have complimented me on my healing.

However, with ToD items, and epic gear... this layout is going to change. In your dreams - perfect gear layout: how would you include more healing amp?