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    Default Max FOD/Wail DC for a TR Wizard

    I have finished my second life as a WF Wizard and I plan to TR twice more in order to have a max save or die caster.
    I have yet to decide to go WF again for general WF arcane awesomeness or do Drow for a +1 higher DC. I am leaning heavily toward the infinitely more durable WF.

    I also need to make sure that I have not forgotten anything that could boost my DC further.

    This is what I have so far. Am I missing anything?

    Intelligence
    18 base (20 if Drow)
    5 level up
    6 enchanted
    3 enhancement
    3 exceptional
    2 capstone
    3 tome
    --------
    Total INT= 40/42
    +15/16 to DC

    Spell Focus Necromancy/Greater Spell Focus Necromancy feats= +2
    Three Arcane Initiate feats from three wizard past lives= +3
    Greater Necromancy focus item= +2
    Spell level= +9
    Base= +10
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    Total Wail/Finger DC = 41 (WF) /42 (Drow)

    Three items I know of are missing from here. The first is the Litany of the Dead trinket. This provides a +1 profane bonus to INT. The second is the only +7 INT item I could find on the static listing, the Epic Staff of Inner Sight. The third is a +4 tome. Since my INT is an even number I would need two of these items to increase my DC. I do not think I can spare both of my hands for a staff, and thus the staff is out as a reasonable option. I also can't see myself finding a +4 INT tome in a million years so this renders the abbot trinket moot.

    How does this look?

    Thanks for the input.

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    Max WF wizzy INT:

    18 base
    5 levelup
    3 enhancement
    9 greensteel INT stick
    2 capstone
    2 lich (I believe)
    4 tome
    2 yugo pot (bad side effect tho, but OK when in lich form)
    2 DDO store pot
    1 litany
    2 House D Int Pot
    _______________________
    50 total (+20 DC), 46 (+18 DC) without any pots

    Spell Focus Necromancy/Greater Spell Focus Necromancy feats= +2
    Arcane Initiate selectable feat from wizard past life= +1
    Greater Necromancy focus item= +2
    Spell level= +9
    Base= +10
    Lich form DC +1
    _______________________

    Total DC in lich form with all pots is 45, 46 if drow
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    The choosable past life feat can only be taken once.

    The free one (the + to spell penetration) can be gotten up to 3 times.

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    I think you can only take the +1DC wizard past life feat (Past Life: Arcane Initiate) once. The passive wizard spell pen past life feat stacks up to 3 times.

    You can pick up +2 int from completionist if you are really crazy :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux-Aeterna View Post
    I have finished my second life as a WF Wizard and I plan to TR twice more in order to have a max save or die caster.
    I have yet to decide to go WF again for general WF arcane awesomeness or do Drow for a +1 higher DC. I am leaning heavily toward the infinitely more durable WF.

    I also need to make sure that I have not forgotten anything that could boost my DC further.

    This is what I have so far. Am I missing anything?

    Intelligence
    18 base (20 if Drow)
    5 level up
    6 enchanted
    3 enhancement
    3 exceptional
    2 capstone
    3 tome
    --------
    Total INT= 40/42
    +15/16 to DC

    Spell Focus Necromancy/Greater Spell Focus Necromancy feats= +2
    Three Arcane Initiate feats from three wizard past lives= +3
    This is incorrect. That feat is only selectable once so -2 to your dcs that you have here.
    Greater Necromancy focus item= +2
    Spell level= +9
    Base= +10
    -------

    Total Wail/Finger DC = 41 (WF) /42 (Drow)

    Three items I know of are missing from here. The first is the Litany of the Dead trinket. This provides a +1 profane bonus to INT. The second is the only +7 INT item I could find on the static listing, the Epic Staff of Inner Sight. The third is a +4 tome. Since my INT is an even number I would need two of these items to increase my DC. I do not think I can spare both of my hands for a staff, and thus the staff is out as a reasonable option. I also can't see myself finding a +4 INT tome in a million years so this renders the abbot trinket moot.

    How does this look?

    Thanks for the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trillea View Post
    Max WF wizzy INT:

    18 base
    5 levelup
    3 enhancement
    9 greensteel INT stick
    2 capstone
    2 lich (I believe)
    4 tome
    2 yugo pot (bad side effect tho, but OK when in lich form)
    2 DDO store pot
    1 litany
    _______________________
    48 total (+19 DC), 44 (+17 DC) without any pots
    +2 House D Int pot

    Spell Focus Necromancy/Greater Spell Focus Necromancy feats= +2
    Three Arcane Initiate feats from three wizard past lives= +3
    Greater Necromancy focus item= +2
    Spell level= +9
    Base= +10
    Lich form DC +1
    _______________________

    Total DC in lich form with all pots is 46, 47 if drow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzly_Bear View Post
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    Was just about to fix this, but thank you.
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    My 1st post edited for correctness.
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    You can only take arcane initiate once?
    Are you sure?
    Is this intended or a bug?

    The past life feat thread seems to indicate otherwise.

    These feats have a minimum level of 3 to select, and can be selected more than once. These feats do cost a feat slot, and all have a passive and an active component. Passive components are always active on your character, while active components must be triggered to take effect.
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=214556

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux-Aeterna View Post
    You can only take arcane initiate once?
    Are you sure?
    Is this intended or a bug?

    The past life feat thread seems to indicate otherwise.


    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=214556
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    Ah well. That's too bad. I think I'm going to hold up on more Wizard TRs until this is resolved one way or another. Thanks for the help.

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    I just asked a friend that has a 2-TR wizzy and he confirmed that you can only take the feat once to raise all spell DCs.
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