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    Default EPIC - more options already.

    While I appreciate all the work on EPIC settings for two of the three older raids, I want more options than just running the raid pre-requisites on EPIC. Let all desert quests be run on EPIC. Let us have the harbor and market on EPIC.

    Since all the EPIC really means is everything has at least 1000 hit points, should be an easy transition. EPIC does not have to be tied purely with raid items as already evident, so let's open it up a bit and have fun with it. We cannot earn XP since you have to be 20th to even get into it, so at least give us some of the oldies but goodies in the harbor and market EPICized.


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    Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.
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    /signed, /signed, and /signed

    EPIC Kobold Assault ftw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belwaar View Post
    /signed, /signed, and /signed

    EPIC Kobold Assault ftw!
    Dirk's Secret. and Invaders, but then again I like painful quests. Next we can talk about Xoriant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    Dirk's Secret. and Invaders, but then again I like painful quests. Next we can talk about Xoriant.
    Go ahead and throw in Butcher's Path
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    just no Kortho's Island. there is a reason i bypass it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    just no Kortho's Island. there is a reason i bypass it in the first place.
    Unless we can fight the White Dragon...then consider me game!

    I used to not see why everyone hated that place...now I know
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    Epic Home Sweet Sewer FTW.

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    Epic Freshen the Air, all them Trog casters, some in unreachable positions...along with a time limit...
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    Disagree entirely - Epic was the worst addition to this game (not counting DA) in years. Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game. The less epic the better. Make it end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadhi View Post
    Disagree entirely - Epic was the worst addition to this game (not counting DA) in years. Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game. The less epic the better. Make it end.
    If you are to the point that it's either log off or "grind" then log off, take a break. Refreshen your appreciation for the game by taking some time away.

    With the rest of this game being given the "stupid proofing" or "easy buttoned" as many are calling, what is wrong with asking for more challenge? It appears that EPIC is the only "challenge" that we are going to get for awhile.

    Are you in favor of the Half-Orcs? Guess what, when you level the Half-Orcs you will be running those same quests for the thousandth time, why not get EPIC tokens out of it instead of being lowbie again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baahb3 View Post
    Epic Freshen the Air, all them Trog casters, some in unreachable positions...along with a time limit...
    is it just me or is it everyone that finds it odd that timed quests have the same time limits on every setting. wouldn't part of difficulty scaling in those quests make sense by adjusting the time? 5 minutes to break 50 boxes on solo vs. 5 minutes to break 50 boxes on elite. just never seemed right to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadhi View Post
    Disagree entirely - Epic was the worst addition to this game (not counting DA) in years. Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game. The less epic the better. Make it end.
    I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.
    agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.
    /signed. I want way more "Amrath" and less epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    With the rest of this game being given the "stupid proofing" or "easy buttoned" as many are calling, what is wrong with asking for more challenge? It appears that EPIC is the only "challenge" that we are going to get for awhile.
    Do you really find epic to be that much of a challenge? I haven't. I think trying to work around the lag in doing an elite Tower run is much more difficult. I don't mind more challenging content being added - but re-using old content is a horrible game design especially when geared towards endgame/vet players (the reason I stopped leveling alts - my old standby for boredom - we need more Amrath/newstuff not more scaling of old content).

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    /signed. I want way more "Amrath" and less epic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.
    And make them bound to account
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.
    I would far prefer a mechanic that allowed you to take a number of tokens (say 20) of either quest or raid and turn them in to generate a list of random seals/shards in some way. Possibly even make them content specific. I know a number of people (myself included) who had well more tokens then we could ever need. I slotted 2 items with benefits I knew i was going to swap out in a month or so, as well used 20 to true reicarnate and after spending them all still had around 11 left over. With all these tokens(read as: quest completions) I still don't have many of the pieces needed to cratf the epic version of the few items i am striving for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    is it just me or is it everyone that finds it odd that timed quests have the same time limits on every setting. wouldn't part of difficulty scaling in those quests make sense by adjusting the time? 5 minutes to break 50 boxes on solo vs. 5 minutes to break 50 boxes on elite. just never seemed right to me.
    So which way are you going with this? Do you feel that because the quest is elite, you should be granted less time? Or are you saying that because it's elite the mobs will take longer and you need more time in the quest to compensate?

    I personally see nothing wrong with any of the timed quests. They are all very doable as sub-optimally equipped, level appropriate groups. Normal will probably take a while, then you figure out the layout and hard and elite are more smooth (despite the mobs taking longer to beat down.)

    That said, I like the idea of elite timed quests having less time. More challenge = good.

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