EPIC - more options already.

[Lerincho]

While I appreciate all the work on EPIC settings for two of the three older raids, I want more options than just running the raid pre-requisites on EPIC. Let all desert quests be run on EPIC. Let us have the harbor and market on EPIC.

Since all the EPIC really means is everything has at least 1000 hit points, should be an easy transition. EPIC does not have to be tied purely with raid items as already evident, so let's open it up a bit and have fun with it. We cannot earn XP since you have to be 20th to even get into it, so at least give us some of the oldies but goodies in the harbor and market EPICized.


We need EPIC for Twilight Forge content.

[Quikster]

Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.

[Belwaar]

/signed, /signed, and /signed

EPIC Kobold Assault ftw!

[Lerincho]

/signed, /signed, and /signed

EPIC Kobold Assault ftw!

Dirk's Secret. and Invaders, but then again I like painful quests. Next we can talk about Xoriant.

[Belwaar]

Dirk's Secret. and Invaders, but then again I like painful quests. Next we can talk about Xoriant.

Go ahead and throw in Butcher's Path

[Lerincho]

just no Kortho's Island. there is a reason i bypass it in the first place.

[Aussieee]

Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.

And make them bound to account

[kaelis]

Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.

I would far prefer a mechanic that allowed you to take a number of tokens (say 20) of either quest or raid and turn them in to generate a list of random seals/shards in some way. Possibly even make them content specific. I know a number of people (myself included) who had well more tokens then we could ever need. I slotted 2 items with benefits I knew i was going to swap out in a month or so, as well used 20 to true reicarnate and after spending them all still had around 11 left over. With all these tokens(read as: quest completions) I still don't have many of the pieces needed to cratf the epic version of the few items i am striving for.

[Sweyn]

Something, what about letting us trade out Epic Raid tokens for Epic Dungeon tokens, maybe 3 for 1 or something.

I like this

[Samadhi]

Disagree entirely - Epic was the worst addition to this game (not counting DA) in years. Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game. The less epic the better. Make it end.

[Lerincho]

Disagree entirely - Epic was the worst addition to this game (not counting DA) in years. Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game. The less epic the better. Make it end.

If you are to the point that it's either log off or "grind" then log off, take a break. Refreshen your appreciation for the game by taking some time away.

With the rest of this game being given the "stupid proofing" or "easy buttoned" as many are calling, what is wrong with asking for more challenge? It appears that EPIC is the only "challenge" that we are going to get for awhile.

Are you in favor of the Half-Orcs? Guess what, when you level the Half-Orcs you will be running those same quests for the thousandth time, why not get EPIC tokens out of it instead of being lowbie again?

[Samadhi]

With the rest of this game being given the "stupid proofing" or "easy buttoned" as many are calling, what is wrong with asking for more challenge? It appears that EPIC is the only "challenge" that we are going to get for awhile.

Do you really find epic to be that much of a challenge? I haven't. I think trying to work around the lag in doing an elite Tower run is much more difficult. I don't mind more challenging content being added - but re-using old content is a horrible game design especially when geared towards endgame/vet players (the reason I stopped leveling alts - my old standby for boredom - we need more Amrath/newstuff not more scaling of old content).

/signed. I want way more "Amrath" and less epic.

Yar.

[maddmatt70]

Disagree entirely - Epic was the worst addition to this game (not counting DA) in years. Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game. The less epic the better. Make it end.

I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.

[Lerincho]

I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.

agreed.

[grodon9999]

I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.

/signed. I want way more "Amrath" and less epic.

[Gunga]

I am more in the middle. I like more of a difficult option, but new content is essential. We need a new raid - that is the most glaring need.

Yep.

[Angelus_dead]

Many of us that have played without a break for four years would rather log off than run quests to death that we have already run a thousand times back when it was the end game.

I have observed many longtime players giving up lately because epics weren't fun for them. But the problem appeared to be not in the quests being recycled, but in the design of the gameplay they contain being too different from how DDO works.

[grodon9999]

I have observed many longtime players giving up lately because epics weren't fun for them. But the problem appeared to be not in the quests being recycled, but in the design of the gameplay they contain being too different from how DDO works.

Correct me if I'm wrong (n00b here), maybe because 90% or the characters who can be effective in the rest of the game are useless in epic?

[Gunga]

I have observed many longtime players giving up lately because epics weren't fun for them. But the problem appeared to be not in the quests being recycled, but in the design of the gameplay they contain being too different from how DDO works.

Why do you think that is?

I've seen more old timers back in the last month or so than when Mod 9 dropped last Sept.

They are having a blast reincarnating, raiding, running epic.

I haven't experienced people leaving again....there's too much to do right now.

Correct me if I'm wrong (n00b here), maybe because 90% or the characters who can be effective in the rest of the game are useless in epic?

90% are useless?!

With all of the reroll options available to you new guys, it's hard for me to understand why that is.

100% of my toons, reinc'd or not, are effective in Epic content.

[Xyfiel]

Why do you think that is?

I've seen more old timers back in the last month or so than when Mod 9 dropped last Sept.

They are having a blast reincarnating, raiding, running epic.

I haven't experienced people leaving again....there's too much to do right now.




90% are useless?!

With all of the reroll options available to you new guys, it's hard for me to understand why that is.

100% of my toons, reinc'd or not, are effective in Epic content.

Maybe because you are considered in the top 10% of power due to builds/gear. Elite guilds/players don't have a problem with Epic, it is the other 90% of people. To quote Shade, "The best of the best". I consider that a design flaw, effectively saying this content is only for the top players. I consider myself a great player with good builds, I shouldn't have a problem in Epic. The problem, I am not dedicated enough to grind the top pieces of loot for every inv slot for all my chars each time upgraded loot comes out. Mindnumbing boring to just farm loot, to me anyway. Epic quests aren't fun really. If they had no epic loot, how many people would just run them for fun?