Tips on leveling at higher levels.

[tihocan]

Really? I must miss most of them, I can't say I ever saw a NPC dialogue that told me I had to run three? flagging quests in Gianthold area, then collect 20 of each relics and then do another quest, but make sure I kill three optional dragons to gain access to a raid. Same could be said for the Vale Raid, I'm still not 100% sure how to gain access to that raid. Can you offer a tip on what NPC to talk to and where to get all this info, in game?

If you read the dialogues it should be pretty clear. For instance Cydonie will direct you to the giant in GH who will tell you about how you need to run the 3 quests and collect the 20 relics. Then once you're done she'll tell you about the dragons to kill in the Tor. In the Vale you first get the quest to reach Meridia, then the NPC in front of Shroud will tell you about how you need to go find the Twelve members (and when you go back to him without having done all 5 quests he'll tell you you need more).

I'll have to check my quest logs though, does the raid show up and indicate what I've done and haven't done to gain access to it?

The quest logs aren't always complete unfortunately, and sometimes if you missed the NPC dialogue you can't really get the full info anymore. I don't remember for sure what it says about Reaver/Shroud though.

[Anderei]

Reading the NPC dialoges? Humbug!

With my last char I tried to, but in the catacombs people got mad at me, since only one can "use" the guy at the time, and if everybody would actually read the dialog which works in series only and not parallell (what a stupid design idea), it takes forever. Thus at lvl 4 I gave up again actually reading any of the story plots :-/

BTW Other games log the complete dialog in the quest log... i don't see why DDO can't do that.

[Rumbaar]

If you read the dialogues it should be pretty clear. For instance Cydonie will direct you to the giant in GH who will tell you about how you need to run the 3 quests and collect the 20 relics. Then once you're done she'll tell you about the dragons to kill in the Tor. In the Vale you first get the quest to reach Meridia, then the NPC in front of Shroud will tell you about how you need to go find the Twelve members (and when you go back to him without having done all 5 quests he'll tell you you need more).


The quest logs aren't always complete unfortunately, and sometimes if you missed the NPC dialogue you can't really get the full info anymore. I don't remember for sure what it says about Reaver/Shroud though.

Yes I've found this issue in Vale, I had gotten enough favor to talk to someone when I did, she game me ingredients. I went back and she said something about stones, I have 3 it seems, but I guess that's not enough. She wont repeat what she said so it does make it difficult to work out what I've done wrong. I guess I need 2 more? As the alter takes 5 items at a time.

But I wish they would log what they say or repeat it. I know the Giant in GH would just ramble something and have end conversation whenever I talked to him after the first time.

I think they could improve that logging and have the indicators or 'flagging' for each of the raids in your log. With a check box of all the things you need to do and have done.

I'm not complaining it's too hard, but at times they don't make it very user friend for no other reason than making it hard. I can't see adding logs or pointers as dumbing down or making it too easy for all vets to complain.

Yes I used to read the quest giver dialogues, but when 80% of the time there is no need it hard to know when important once only available information is being presented. Maybe weed out the garbage so we'll know that if they talk it's always important to read.

[Mackem]

Yes I've found this issue in Vale, I had gotten enough favor to talk to someone when I did, she game me ingredients. I went back and she said something about stones, I have 3 it seems, but I guess that's not enough. She wont repeat what she said so it does make it difficult to work out what I've done wrong. I guess I need 2 more? As the alter takes 5 items at a time.

Shroud flagging could be a "little bit" confusing to do for the first time with in fact two separate flagging components present - crafting tutorial and actual flagging by running the pre-req quests.

I did it simple way - I did not bother with crafting tutorial until I got all 5 stones from Vale quests:

1. talk to the Gustavine dude inside the building at 12 enclave to be sent to find Meridia.
2. In Meridia talk to a dude in front of Shroud to find some lost folks (quest will advance)
3. At this stage run all 5 quests in Vale: dust, coal, rainbow, sacrifice, devils to pick a stone from each quest end chest.
4. Do the crafting tutorial
5. Talk again to the dude in front of Shroud and you are set

Happy Shrouddage!