PLEASE Change Loot Chest Viewing Already!

[Atenhotep]

I know I've seen this topic come up before but there's been no change.

I'm pretty sure we'd all greatly benefit (a piece of mind, less drama) from it.

What we want:

PLEASE make it so that the only person able to see an individual's loot is the person it drops for.

Why?

If somebody pulls something they should be able to do with it as they wish. Period.

Let the Noobs take something they can't use. Maybe they'll learn, maybe not. Let nature take it's course.

And if somebody pulls a great piece of bound loot which they cannot use and wants to give it to the person(s) of their choosing without a bunch of drama they should be able to do so.

Now that I run my Raid Train 2x a week I've seen some pretty ugly sides of people - greed, jealousy, envy, drama over loot. It's uncalled for but I got to blame Turbine at least in part for how the system is set up.

They've had how many years to fix this now?

I believe this to be an important issue that with such a simple change would banish a great deal of the drama around loot drops.

Thanks,
Aten

[Angelus_dead]

If somebody pulls something they should be able to do with it as they wish. Period.

And if they do something stupid and greedy with it, why should the people who actually enabled him to reach that chest be denied that knowledge?

I believe this to be an important issue that with such a simple change would banish a great deal of the drama around loot drops.

And also create drama by introducing the possibility to question if a person was dishonest about what actually did drop.

[Atenhotep]

What we don't know ain't gonna hurt us.

Seriously, I'm not a person who gives a hoot over what somebody else pulls/gets. So why should I care?

Why do you care?

Let them take some item they can't use and let us not know about it.

I'll get my item(s) sooner or later.

And besides the good players will announce they have an item up for roll or just pass it to their friend.

No drama.

Simple as that.

edit: I absolutely cannot understand how anyone could possibly not agree with this.

It boggles meh mind.

[Anderei]

/not signed

eny much? jealousy is a b**, no tech-fix pls

[Angelus_dead]

Hello!

In software design we have the principle "Optimize for the common case".

The most common case for binding loot dropping is that the person who got it does not need it, does not care who sees it, and wants everyone else to be aware of it without having to do a lot of extra work on his part.

[bobbryan2]

Oh yeah.. I want my life made harder because a party got mad at your wizard for looting a chattering ring.

Tuff up.

[Logic]

and on a different level this would stop top guilds from bringing pugs to fill out raids they dont need too....

Yeah good point. They wouldn't bring newbs anymore.

[Atenhotep]

well to me it seems the op wants to have the chance to be greedy and noone see it.....

and on a different level this would stop top guilds from bringing pugs to fill out raids they dont need too....

This is exactly the type of drama I'm sick of.

You come here, not knowing me from Adam to just insult me without even reading the post?"

Jeesh.

I wish you people would grow up.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Here's one problem with this.

Dishonest Noob; /tell Uber Hey, I've got the ring you want, 500k plat and it's yours.

Uber; /tell DN; OK, sure. Switch it and I'll give you the plat.

DN; /tell Uber; Nah, trade me the plat first.

Uber; /tell DN; OK.

/trade. Dishonest Noob switches +5 healer kits. Recalls. Gone.

Sure this happens too often and word gets around, but with the community we have now I see it being a problem.

Basically no way to trade raid loot this way, no seeing that it's there to even trade.

I think with TR coming and the way the community is going it is time to drop the need before greed attitude. An attitude that I've always believed in btw.

Every man for themselves seems to be the way forward.

[Atenhotep]

Here's one problem with this.

Dishonest Noob; /tell Uber Hey, I've got the ring you want, 500k plat and it's yours.

Uber; /tell DN; OK, sure. Switch it and I'll give you the plat.

DN; /tell Uber; Nah, trade me the plat first.

Uber; /tell DN; OK.

/trade. Dishonest Noob switches +5 healer kits. Recalls. Gone.

Sure this happens too often and word gets around, but with the community we have now I see it being a problem.

Basically no way to trade raid loot this way, no seeing that it's there to even trade.

I think with TR coming and the way the community is going it is time to drop the need before greed attitude. An attitude that I've always believed in btw.

Every man for themselves seems to be the way forward.

A previous poster suggest a trade window viewing option thingy .. or maybe an option for "Make Public?"

[cdemeritt]

/signed... agreed 1000%

Greed is human nature, Seen families torn to shreds because of it after a death of a loved one.... in game it is going to be no different....

However, I will add, put in a "up for roll" window, so people can view it if it does go up for roll... not everyone knows what everything is...

[Xaearth]

Your way makes more drama.
Yes, let us enable the unwashed masses to attempt to scam others by offering their "raid loot" for trade.

[Qzipoun]

If somebody pulls something they should be able to do with it as they wish. Period

How is this any different from now? Right now at least the greed and stupidity is made public

Not seeing other loot creates too many problem, especially for friends of guilds that share the loot and need to see what others get so they can decide who gets what. Also, people need to see other people's raid loot to see if they should stick around and ask if there will be a roll or just leave.

[Atenhotep]

How is this any different from now? Right now at least the greed and stupidity is made public

Not seeing other loot creates too many problem, especially for friends of guilds that share the loot and need to see what others get so they can decide who gets what. Also, people need to see other people's raid loot to see if they should stick around and ask if there will be a roll or just leave.

Have they disabled voice chat or party chat in these groups you are talking about?

[bobbryan2]

Have they disabled voice chat or party chat in these groups you are talking about?

Yeah... that's a much better solution.

"anyone want this encrusted ring"

"what's it do"

"this this and this"

"what was that last thing?"

"this"

"could you just type it?"

types it out

"oh... nah"

"anyone else?"

"what was the first couple things, I wasn't listening?"

All because you don't want people to see what you loot and accuse you of being greedy?

Wow.

Just wait till everyone else leaves already.

[Spookyaction]

Yeah... that's a much better solution.

"anyone want this encrusted ring"

"what's it do"

"this this and this"

"what was that last thing?"

"this"

"could you just type it?"

types it out

"oh... nah"

"anyone else?"

"what was the first couple things, I wasn't listening?"

All because you don't want people to see what you loot and accuse you of being greedy?

Wow.

Just wait till everyone else leaves already.

You are trying to hard. You can link items to the chat window now so this would never have to happen ...

I like options. If someone wants to opt to have their loot unseen i do not care.

[Vhlad]

You are trying to hard. You can link items to the chat window now so this would never have to happen ...

Not many players know that you can ctrl-rightclick an unlooted item in a chest to paste a link to its description in party chat. But just for you, here's the revised conversation:

leviks shield for roll, d100
what's leviks shield do?
it's for clerics
link it
no it's not, leviks is the tower shield
thats the cleric one
just link it please
no, clerics want the heavy shield
oh right, lorriks is for clerics
what's the stats on leviks?
heres the link: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ksDefender.jpg
I may crash if I tab out, someone tell me the stats
too many people are talking, type it please
omg link it in the chat window!
how?
alt click
no
doesnt work
use the /death link item command
DONT DO IT
yeah hes trying to trick you. you want to hold ctrl, then press alt, then del, but you gotta do it twice fast!
lame
hold alt and press F4!
THE REAL COMMAND IS hold ctrl down and press right click
it's not working
make sure you have the party chat window selected and just ctrl rightclick!
*10 seconds pass*
just type the stats in!
stats: +5 mithral tower shield, chance to proc heal spell, sonic guard
no that's lorriks
NO thats the leviks!
OMG NOOB JUST CTRL RIGHT CLICK IT!
player X has disconnected
don't call me a noob! it doesnt work, ctrl is my sneak button.
roll
roll
roll
roll
grats, here you go
oh that's not the one I wanted, who else wanted it?
I thought we were rolling on lorriks. I heard someone say lorriks
we recalled already
oops
player Y loots the chest
player X has reconnected
I tabbed out to click the link and it crashed me, is the shield still up for roll?
i looted it
****

I like options. If someone wants to opt to have their loot unseen i do not care.

I like options too. I want to opt to see all the loot pulled from a chest.

[Turgar]

Yeah... that's a much better solution.

"anyone want this encrusted ring"

"what's it do"

"this this and this"

"what was that last thing?"

"this"

"could you just type it?"

types it out

"oh... nah"

"anyone else?"

"what was the first couple things, I wasn't listening?"

All because you don't want people to see what you loot and accuse you of being greedy?

Wow.

Just wait till everyone else leaves already.

I think the OP doesn't want to wait till other people leave, because he wants to roll on their loot. I think the OP is obviously trolling, because I don't think anyone could sincerely want such a stupid idea to be implemented in the game.