PLEASE Change Loot Chest Viewing Already!

[Spookyaction]

Totally unneeded and unnecessary change.
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You mean like adding myddo ?

[Spookyaction]

so we have the choice between:
1) to a big change which will be buggy like hell and create alot of hate

or

2) leave it as it is

i'll stick to 2

Are you saying turbine cant do anything right ?

[Spookyaction]

Odd, I've never once seen the kind of loot greed that you're complaining about. Usually it's just the opposite, actually. People fall over themselves to give away stuff they can't or shouldn't use to people who could.

Sounds like you just attract bad people.

Personally, I rather like being able to congratulate people on getting a good pull. Since my experience is that most people just click "Loot All" on every non-warded chest, and look at what they picked up after the group is finished, it's actually beneficial that I'm able to see what they get, so they can know about it at the time.

Then of course, there's the regularly occuring incidence of people accidently leaving stuff behind in a chest, and they know about it because I see it in there and ask if they really meant to leave it. Your system would eliminate that possibility.

It's also extremely useful for places like the Inspired Quarter to be able to see what kinds of fruit loop segments people have gotten, so you can combine them into the most number of full loops for max number of Mindsunder runs.

So yea.../not signed. Terrible idea.

You have to see the fruit loops and know how many, why not just pick a person and give all the pieces to them ?

[Memnir]

You mean like adding myddo ?

I never once saw a suggestion here asking for such a feature - and if I had I would have had a similar stance on it.

You are comparing apples to Volkswagens - friend.

[Spookyaction]

A unnecessary change is an unnecessary change, at least I thought so.

[Missing_Minds]

/not signed.

Overtly greedy people just make my "friends" list. It isn't that difficult to handle immaturity with maturity.

edit: I absolutely cannot understand how anyone could possibly not agree with this.

Simple, we have our own opinions which do not agree with your perceptions.

[vVAnjilaVv]

You know what....GROW UP!

Take a step back and remember what this game is supposed to be about...FUN!!!!!


It's not about who has all the best raid loot so they look more appealing on MyDDO.com...which by the way is completely flawed anyways.

Move on or don't raid......it's not like u HAVE to have the stuff anyways.....personally if u NEED raid loot ur a weak player anyways, and letting it bring about ur petty, greedy, envious side makes u WEAKER player.

Let me make it a little more obvious for the people who don't understand...there is this little known commodity in this game that is more valueable than any piece of raid loot.......it's called SKILL!!!!

Hmmmph.....


*turns purple*

[Vhlad]

You are trying to hard. You can link items to the chat window now so this would never have to happen ...

Not many players know that you can ctrl-rightclick an unlooted item in a chest to paste a link to its description in party chat. But just for you, here's the revised conversation:

leviks shield for roll, d100
what's leviks shield do?
it's for clerics
link it
no it's not, leviks is the tower shield
thats the cleric one
just link it please
no, clerics want the heavy shield
oh right, lorriks is for clerics
what's the stats on leviks?
heres the link: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ksDefender.jpg
I may crash if I tab out, someone tell me the stats
too many people are talking, type it please
omg link it in the chat window!
how?
alt click
no
doesnt work
use the /death link item command
DONT DO IT
yeah hes trying to trick you. you want to hold ctrl, then press alt, then del, but you gotta do it twice fast!
lame
hold alt and press F4!
THE REAL COMMAND IS hold ctrl down and press right click
it's not working
make sure you have the party chat window selected and just ctrl rightclick!
*10 seconds pass*
just type the stats in!
stats: +5 mithral tower shield, chance to proc heal spell, sonic guard
no that's lorriks
NO thats the leviks!
OMG NOOB JUST CTRL RIGHT CLICK IT!
player X has disconnected
don't call me a noob! it doesnt work, ctrl is my sneak button.
roll
roll
roll
roll
grats, here you go
oh that's not the one I wanted, who else wanted it?
I thought we were rolling on lorriks. I heard someone say lorriks
we recalled already
oops
player Y loots the chest
player X has reconnected
I tabbed out to click the link and it crashed me, is the shield still up for roll?
i looted it
****

I like options. If someone wants to opt to have their loot unseen i do not care.

I like options too. I want to opt to see all the loot pulled from a chest.

[bobbryan2]

If it was just an unnecessary change, I probably wouldn't have even jumped in on the thread. I usually bow out and just let the thread run its course if it seems like a silly suggestion.

This one seems deleterious... and that makes it definitely not worth programming.

[Orratti]

I'm sure it is possible, and has happened, that people will blacklist someone for not being "generous" with their loot, esp if someone else may find it more useful than they might have. At the same time it is nice being able to see the loot that has been pulled to see what it does if you are given the time to look over it. It's also nice to be able to showoff your loot before you pull it from the box.

[Spookyaction]

Not many players know that you can ctrl-rightclick an unlooted item in a chest to paste a link to its description in party chat. But just for you, here's the revised conversation:

leviks shield for roll, d100
what's leviks shield do?
it's for clerics
link it
no it's not, leviks is the tower shield
thats the cleric one
just link it please
no, clerics want the heavy shield
oh right, lorriks is for clerics
what's the stats on leviks?
heres the link: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ksDefender.jpg
I may crash if I tab out, someone tell me the stats
too many people are talking, type it please
omg link it in the chat window!
how?
alt click
no
doesnt work
use the /death link item command
DONT DO IT
yeah hes trying to trick you. you want to hold ctrl, then press alt, then del, but you gotta do it twice fast!
lame
hold alt and press F4!
THE REAL COMMAND IS hold ctrl down and press right click
it's not working
make sure you have the party chat window selected and just ctrl rightclick!
*10 seconds pass*
just type the stats in!
stats: +5 mithral tower shield, chance to proc heal spell, sonic guard
no that's lorriks
NO thats the leviks!
OMG NOOB JUST CTRL RIGHT CLICK IT!
player X has disconnected
don't call me a noob! it doesnt work, ctrl is my sneak button.
roll
roll
roll
roll
grats, here you go
oh that's not the one I wanted, who else wanted it?
I thought we were rolling on lorriks. I heard someone say lorriks
we recalled already
oops
player Y loots the chest
player X has reconnected
I tabbed out to click the link and it crashed me, is the shield still up for roll?
i looted it
****


I like options too. I want to opt to see all the loot pulled from a chest.

It would be your option then, to only run with people who show their loot so you have no problem right ?

Your hypothetical example is very pessimistic from what I have experienced. I could just as easily post a long bunch of stuff i make up showing that things are not so difficult when something is put for roll. However it would not be anything but something I made up like what you did. You dont have to click out or tab out of anything to see the item posted in chat. I dont know how you determined that not many players know about posting items in chat but the longer the feature is out the more people will know and it will become common knowledge like whats required to craft a min 2 has.

[Spookyaction]

If it was just an unnecessary change, I probably wouldn't have even jumped in on the thread. I usually bow out and just let the thread run its course if it seems like a silly suggestion.

This one seems deleterious... and that makes it definitely not worth programming.

I dont see what is deleterious about this feature request. Unless you think you have a right to see other peoples loot. If being truly anon on myddo or not showing your loot causes you to become a pariah you will have to deal with those consequence. But I think its ok if someone wants to have those options.

[Anderei]

I'm sure it is possible, and has happened, that people will blacklist someone for not being "generous" with their loot.

well be my guest! i dont mind coming on a blacklist ofa greedy person.

on topic this is a party/group game! just another "i play alone, and only need these other guys because I die on solo, no don't show them what i got, its not my "party"

[toughguyjoe]

A unnecessary change is an unnecessary change, at least I thought so.

Thats what i would do. Support unnecessary changes to the game. Good use of developer time.

[sirgog]

Very not signed.

This would lead to more of the same old BS of:

Player 1: Tharne's Goggles up for roll. (Tharne's are a must have for almost all melee builds).
Player 2: /roll 1d100 - 66
Paladin (member of a guild): /roll 1d100 - 22
Wizard (same guild): /roll 1d100 - 55
Sorc (same guild): /roll 1d100 - 89

Sorc gets the item, secretly passes it (invisibly) to the Paladin in their guild, screwing Player 2. Noone knows who loots the item. (At present, that sort of behaviour would lead to the paladin and sorc (and maybe the whole guild) being blacklisted by many players on their serve - after your change we'd never know).

I know for one, if this was instituted, I'd only allow one member of each guild represented in a run to roll on items I put up for roll - which is totally unfair towards those guilds that are honest.

[toughguyjoe]

I guess this is what happens when you ostracize yourself from the raiding community. You end up in puggy raids with bickering and complaining and loot switching hands all sneakily. Sounds like a blast!

[bobbryan2]

I dont see what is deleterious about this feature request. Unless you think you have a right to see other peoples loot. If being truly anon on myddo or not showing your loot causes you to become a pariah you will have to deal with those consequence. But I think its ok if someone wants to have those options.

It makes it a hassle. If I'm running with my guildies, I don't want to have to ask at every single solitary chest whether anyone pulled an item. The whole thing would be a pain... to fix a non-existent problem.

[Xezno]

With the TR mechanic its really simple: Everyone can use every piece of raid loot as long as they dont allready have one. If i find a raid loot docent on my halfling rogue i will take it... why? Because i plan to tr into a WF fighter tank.

[DoctorWhofan]

No thank you.

It is fun to see what people pull from chests. Hiding it all is like having a lotto and failing to publicly announce who wins. Seeing other people "win" provides incentive to roll the dice again. It's encouraging to see some raid or named loot in a chest, even if it's not yours.

It also informs the group of the presence of named items/raid loot at a given location, and allows them to inspect the items to see its stats. This feature is important for people who may not visit the forums, and is especially appealing to have when new content is released. Additionally, it enables people to ask for items that they see left behind, which is perfectly fine. I am not going to announce to the party that there are +5 thieves tools in the chest, so it's a good thing for someone to be automatically informed of an items presence in the chest.

Logistically, it would be a headache and major nuisance not to have all loot displayed. i.e.
leviks shield for roll, d100
what's leviks shield do?
it's for clerics
no it's not, leviks is the tower shield
thats the cleric one
no, clerics want the heavy shield
oh right, lorriks is for clerics
what's the stats on leviks?
I didn't hear you, type it please
etc

urgh. No thanks. When you raid as often as I do, this kind of conversation will get old and annoying real fast.

Or it's fun to see who got the ultra rare drops: robe, outfit, club and quarterstaff. THat is a big kick in our guild.

[Vhlad]

I like options. If someone wants to opt to have their loot unseen i do not care.

I like options too. I want to opt to see all the loot pulled from a chest.

It would be your option then, to only run with people who show their loot so you have no problem right ?

It is already your option then, to only run with people who have "loot" feedback unchecked in their chat window so you have no problem right ?

Or, even better, you can run only with people who agree to close their eyes when you loot!