Props to the Monks of Sarlona

[soupertc]

You all have made me belivers!!!

I use to hate having Monks in groups.....but over the last few months having one in the group over all is well worth it. Keensly of the top of my head is top notch as well as Panzys monk. I'm glad they gave monks some love...hopefully they'll give some more soon. I know people on other servers still are having monk issues.....but on Sarlona they are pretty **** good.

[Quijonsith]

Sounds to me like you previously grouped with a few bad monks and are finally getting some good ones. The changes they made to us were not so drastic as to suddenly make the class 'worth having' as if it weren't before. It's the players' skill that make a good or bad monk, much like any other class. Glad to see someone enjoying monks in their group.

[Quikster]

Sounds to me like you previously grouped with a few bad monks and are finally getting some good ones. The changes they made to us were not so drastic as to suddenly make the class 'worth having' as if it weren't before. It's the players' skill that make a good or bad monk, much like any other class. Glad to see someone enjoying monks in their group.

The love has been huge. When monks came out they were completely gimped. Over the past few updates they have been given much love, namely the ability to break raid boss dr.

[soupertc]

I think having ToD rings have helped alot with DPS and new handwraps etc.,etc.

Even some of the good players that I know and grouped with all the time were less than optimal back in the day. The monk class overall has been upgraded in the last 6 months......trust me it's not all just player ability.

[Cedwin]

trust me it's not all just player ability.

even with all of the monk love given, a bad player is still a bad player.

[soupertc]

even with all of the monk love given, a bad player is still a bad player.

lol.....well that's a given. But would I be posting Props to bad players?

[Quijonsith]

I suppose I should clarify my position as maybe i've missed something. I've only played since november, and started my monk in january. When I commented on the changes, it was in regards to the only one I've seen: the recent improvements to the dark side and the changes that gave us the first tier of stances as feats. Where there alot of changes just before I joined?

[Towrn]

even with all of the monk love given, a bad player is still a bad player.

Why do you guys insist on talking about me when I'm at work and can't defend my gimpness?

[soupertc]

I suppose I should clarify my position as maybe i've missed something. I've only played since november, and started my monk in january. When I commented on the changes, it was in regards to the only one I've seen: the recent improvements to the dark side and the changes that gave us the first tier of stances as feats. Where there alot of changes just before I joined?

I'm no expert in monks.....so someone else will be better to give you the highs and lows. But I can say it was hard for monks to get into raids when they first cameout cause the lacked DPS or like Quik said the ablitly to bypass raidbosses DR. Now even back then they were maybe a handful of monks that were good(Player Abilty).....but I've noticed that monks are pretty good now....and that's serverwide cause of the fixes they have gotten. My barb loves em cause of thier stunning fist....my cleric loves em cause of the buffs they can passout and the stunning fist and DPS they can lay down.

[Cedwin]

Where there alot of changes just before I joined?

Back when the monk first came out, a lot of people made super high AC builds, that couldn't really do anything in a party except brag about how high their AC was.

They didn't have metalline, or pure good on handwraps. A lot of the basic mods that are on all weapons were missing from handwraps. There were no named handwraps at all.

There are no greensteel handwraps. Since ToD was added, monks can get rings with bursting damage on them, which was a major dps increase point.

They've revisted the feats and enhancements several times since EU was launched, added lots of named handwraps, and added all of the basic mods to the handwraps loot generation. All of this combined has made the monk 100 times better than they were when first released.

All that's left to fix is weighted on handwraps. It doesn't affect the DC of stunning fist or stunning blow like it should.

[Quikster]

Back when the monk first came out, a lot of people made super high AC builds, that couldn't really do anything in a party except brag about how high their AC was.

They didn't have metalline, or pure good on handwraps. A lot of the basic mods that are on all weapons were missing from handwraps. There were no named handwraps at all.

There are no greensteel handwraps. Since ToD was added, monks can get rings with bursting damage on them, which was a major dps increase point.

They've revisted the feats and enhancements several times since EU was launched, added lots of named handwraps, and added all of the basic mods to the handwraps loot generation. All of this combined has made the monk 100 times better than they were when first released.

All that's left to fix is weighted on handwraps. It doesn't affect the DC of stunning fist or stunning blow like it should.

This is spot on, add to it that people were still figureing out how to string ki strikes together (only the best players were doing it at the time) and you had a pretty gimped class.

[Quijonsith]

I see. Thanks for the insight, and thanks again Soupertc for helping bring up awareness on good monks.

[Original]

even with all of the monk love given, a bad player is still a bad player.

So many of these I am coming across leveling tr's and lowbies

[Roman]

I think monk is the hardest class to build right, and play well. Big props to the guys who stuck it out, figuring out the class and giving it a good name.

[QuantumFX]

What Cedwin said.

And don’t forget the changes to the TWF feats to make it work with unarmed combat. That was a HUGE change.

[Solmage]

And don’t forget the changes to the TWF feats to make it work with unarmed combat. That was a HUGE change.

Yep! And also the change that gave the elemental strikes actually powerful/useful damage so that chaining attacks was totally worth it, together with the raid loot to not run out of ki

But... they totally ruined a lot of really fun monk jokes, sniff. And the Garth monk jokes, those were the best!

Anyway just wanted to also add props to Garth's monk, he was always very solid, which made him a very fun target for jokes

[Hendrik]

You all have made me belivers!!!

I use to hate having Monks in groups.....but over the last few months having one in the group over all is well worth it. Keensly of the top of my head is top notch as well as Panzys monk. I'm glad they gave monks some love...hopefully they'll give some more soon. I know people on other servers still are having monk issues.....but on Sarlona they are pretty **** good.

Quis, Hasan, Akastos, to name a few more, all give Monks a good name.

[Cashiry]

Distime, Keensky and Ecliptical, are by far the best monks I have seen on the server...

[Morningfrost]

Over the past few updates they have been given much love, namely the ability to break raid boss dr.

I beg to know how, please! Is there a method that doesn't involve farming for Devouts (sick of that, really sick) or ToD rings (very far from that, but I would like to run at least the Shroud or DQ)?

[darkwalker]

ok my bad on this post i thought cash u meant by distime it time to insult other monks not a toon name sry all