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    Default How can I let bard spells harder to resist?

    I know that bard songs uses charisma and perform to high their saves, but what about other bard spells?

    For example, I am lvl 5 and my "Otto's Irresistible Dance" have a save of 14 will. The mobs save it everytime!

    Do I need to raise wisdow or int to get higher saves numbers?

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    "The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a bard’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the bard’s Charisma modifier."

    afaik spell focus feats and magic item properties can help too

    thats all i dare to say atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedroviski View Post
    I know that bard songs uses charisma and perform to high their saves, but what about other bard spells?

    For example, I am lvl 5 and my "Otto's Irresistible Dance" have a save of 14 will. The mobs save it everytime!

    Do I need to raise wisdow or int to get higher saves numbers?
    To land spells you often have to make a save check (normally versus will) and a spell pen check.

    Ways to raise save check:
    spell focus (enchant) x2
    charisma (items, level ups, tomes, enhancements, etc)
    dream spitter (+2 to enchant)
    heighten
    bard capstone

    Ways to raise spell pen:
    level ups (based on caster level)
    bard capstone
    increasing charisma
    spell pen item
    spell pen feats x2
    spell pen enhancements

    I've probably missed something.

    If you want to be a top notch enchanter, you need to do all of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedroviski View Post
    I know that bard songs uses charisma and perform to high their saves, but what about other bard spells?

    For example, I am lvl 5 and my "Otto's Irresistible Dance" have a save of 14 will. The mobs save it everytime!

    Do I need to raise wisdow or int to get higher saves numbers?
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