Drop charisma?

[Morningfrost]

It's not my main, but I have a dwarven cleric (currently 11) I like to play from time to time. Since I like solo playing and find myself costantly meeleing, he's basically a fighter with maximized wisdom. I'm a hopeless type of player for that

Currently, I have 16 STR and CON, 22 WIS, and 6 CHA. I rerolled the toon for higher strength and constitution, dropping charisma.

However, I now have only 1/rest usage of DV, DH, Dol Dorn and whatever. They may become useful in parties.

I plan to do a lesser reincarnation sooner or later, so I wonder how much charisma a typical build has. I see builds with 10 or 11, probably 3/rest is fine for most healers? How do you really use turn-undead based ehnacements? Divine Cleansing is probably not much useful once you have Panacea and (later) Heal, Burn Undead may be helpful (never tried), DV sound very useful at tier 2 or 3, DH help saving mana.

Any advice? Or dwarf is a poor race for clerics? Afterall, they don't get acces to anything unique (like elves do) and extra spell points are not that much.

[twix]

Dwarves make awesome clerics.Leave your cha how it is.You do not need dvs at all,But if you want them id roll a human or an elf instead of a dwarf.They dont get -to their cha.

In my opinion your build is fine and dvs arent that great anyways and deffintly not worth pumping charisma up on a dwarf

[Propane]

You could take 1 lv of fighter - it would help alot with your hand to hand mob clean up-

an 8 chr is ok - drop DV - with a 6 - that is getting a little low - if any of your stats get to 0 you are helpless...

[Anderei]

You could take 1 lv of fighter - it would help alot with your hand to hand mob clean up-

an 8 chr is ok - drop DV - with a 6 - that is getting a little low - if any of your stats get to 0 you are helpless...

how often is this an issue? no, keep it at 6, fine enough for a min/max build.

[dkrypt]

I've got base CHA 6 and it is just fine.

If you are still interested in DV's despite a low CHA: With a CHA +6 item and a +2 CHA tome (easy to acquire items), and maybe an item which gives a couple extra turns per rest (also not too hard to acquire), at end game you can DV 200-250+ SP's with an investment of ~9 AP's in DVIII and Extra Turning II, if you're inclined to do so. With a better tome or some exceptional CHA, those numbers can increase.

Dwarves are a great race for clerics for various reasons, including the ability to really up your HP's (a live cleric is the group's anti-wipe insurance policy; a dead cleric should practically be ashamed of himself ).

My modest but successful and fully functional lvl 20 has very mundane gear and resembles your character in many ways; currently he's not spec'd for DV's - if he was, he'd probably have about 30 less HP's:

http://my.ddo.com/character/ghallanda/damienkrypt

In short: low CHA is AOK, with or without DV's.

[Morningfrost]

In short: low CHA is AOK, with or without DV's.

Thanks, I will stay on this path. Just found a +5 cloak, will try the other advice.

Taking one level of fighter is a good advice, I will think about it.

Thanks everyone for help.