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    Default Best Monk Raid Weapons

    I have been running the Shroud and ToD lately and I don't have devout wraps yet which I can only assume means I have been using sub-optimal weapons. Also, I have yet to come across in a quest or see Greater Evil Outsider Bane wraps in the AH. Until I can find the best ones, can I get some advice for next best options? Also:

    -Are +x transmuting of PG better/worse/same as GEOB?

    -For the Shroud and ToD (end bosses including the jailer and judge), is Greater Lawful Outsider Bane as better/worse/same as GEOB?

    -What weapons in descending or ascending order are best for raid end bosses?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgoezit View Post
    I have been running the Shroud and ToD lately and I don't have devout wraps yet which I can only assume means I have been using sub-optimal weapons. Also, I have yet to come across in a quest or see Greater Evil Outsider Bane wraps in the AH. Until I can find the best ones, can I get some advice for next best options? Also:

    -Are +x transmuting of PG better/worse/same as GEOB?

    -For the Shroud and ToD (end bosses including the jailer and judge), is Greater Lawful Outsider Bane as better/worse/same as GEOB?

    -What weapons in descending or ascending order are best for raid end bosses?

    Thanks in advance,

    Ez
    -Metalline of PG are slightly worse than Holy/Anarchic of G_OB at the same ML, on normal. On Hard and Elite, MoPG wins out.
    -GLOB is the same as GEOB for the bosses. Some of the trash won't qualify, but most of that's vorpallable anyway.
    -Assuming a holy burst tower ring: Metalline of G_OB, MoPG | Holy/Anarchic of G_OB | Metalline of something else
    -Difficulty scales the usefulness of Metalline up, but the first one listed there (MoG_OB) is like the holy grail of wraps for ToD/Shroud/VoD. Good luck finding those : P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakmireTS View Post
    -Metalline of PG are slightly worse than Holy/Anarchic of G_OB at the same ML, on normal. On Hard and Elite, MoPG wins out.
    -GLOB is the same as GEOB for the bosses. Some of the trash won't qualify, but most of that's vorpallable anyway.
    -Assuming a holy burst tower ring: Metalline of G_OB, MoPG | Holy/Anarchic of G_OB | Metalline of something else
    -Difficulty scales the usefulness of Metalline up, but the first one listed there (MoG_OB) is like the holy grail of wraps for ToD/Shroud/VoD. Good luck finding those : P
    Basically everything Drakmire said. If you are only doing the raids on normal something like holy of GEOB is going to be a little better than Metalline of Pure Good, but once you go to hard and elite with higher DRs on the bosses you want something that can bypass the DR.

    GEOB and GLOB are going to be the same for the bosses in ToD, VoD, and Shroud. If you find yourself also running DQ a lot though, GEOB would be better since it will also apply to the end boss there. Also, as Drakmire mentioned, some of the trash is not lawful so GEOB would be better for that. Basically GEOB is better overall because it's more versatile, but GLOB will be just as good most of the time.

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    Thanks for the info all. (+ sent). I wish decent wraps were easier to find. I bid on a pair of +3 Force burst wraps of PG last night on Sarlona. I bid 50k plat at 3 hours left and I later found they ended up selling for over 800k plat. I never see GEOB or Metal of PG on the AH, but I can only imagine how much they would go for.

    Thanks again,

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    The devout handwraps are pretty much it for end bosses with holy silver DR requirements. Ok, so if you happen to win the lottery and find some +x anarchic of GEOB, then you can quibble over the small differences and decide yourself. GEOB handwraps drop, but I've personally never seen anarchic ones. The best GEOB I have pulled were shock... The devouts are obtainable with some effort and luck. Anarchic of GEOB are strictly luck and I don't plan any build or tactic on something that has a 0.01% chance of dropping.
    Greater Construct bane are great for the portals but regular old anarchic or holy will get you by, if you don't have GCB (which don't seem to drop that frequently..). T

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgoezit View Post
    Thanks for the info all. (+ sent). I wish decent wraps were easier to find. I bid on a pair of +3 Force burst wraps of PG last night on Sarlona. I bid 50k plat at 3 hours left and I later found they ended up selling for over 800k plat. I never see GEOB or Metal of PG on the AH, but I can only imagine how much they would go for.

    Thanks again,

    Ez
    the devout handwraps (+2 metaline of pure good) which drop in the extra chest of the shaddow crypt are bound to character, you'll never see them on the AH. T

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgoezit View Post
    I have been running the Shroud and ToD lately and I don't have devout wraps yet which I can only assume means I have been using sub-optimal weapons. Also, I have yet to come across in a quest or see Greater Evil Outsider Bane wraps in the AH. Until I can find the best ones, can I get some advice for next best options? Also:

    -Are +x transmuting of PG better/worse/same as GEOB?

    -For the Shroud and ToD (end bosses including the jailer and judge), is Greater Lawful Outsider Bane as better/worse/same as GEOB?

    -What weapons in descending or ascending order are best for raid end bosses?

    Thanks in advance,

    Ez
    For Shroud you are gonna want +x Anarchic of Greater Construct Bane for the portals in part 1 and +x Transmuting of PG or GEOB for Harry, but good luck on the transmuting of GEOB heh

    ToD, pretty much the same beaters - Metalline of PG for bosses and can use Anarchic of 5% for trash

    If you can lay your hands on Metalline of GEOB/GLOB's, guard them with your life, cause it will give +4 extra bonus to hit and damage against the bosses (devils) and an extra 3d6 damage whereas the Pure Good will only give 1d6 extra damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sithias View Post
    For Shroud you are gonna want +x Anarchic of Greater Construct Bane for the portals in part 1 ~snip~
    I picked up Vicious of Greater Construct Bane off the AH for 6k plat .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sithias View Post
    If you can lay your hands on Metalline of GEOB/GLOB's, guard them with your life, cause it will give +4 extra bonus to hit and damage against the bosses (devils) and an extra 3d6 damage whereas the Pure Good will only give 1d6 extra damage
    Remember with these wraps you still will need good to bypass pit fiend dr, so to get the most out of metalline of GEOB you will need a ToD ring with holy burst crafted on it.

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    Devout vs Metalline of PG vs Holy/Anarchic of G_OB involves the same amount of luck. You can run Shadow Crypt a thousand times and not see it, and you'll be spending massive time doing so if you're even moderately unlucky. Or you could just keep an eye on the AH for any combination that would work just as well or better. It comes down to which is going to cost you more, a few million gold (I paid 2 million for my +3 M of PG) or the hours and hours you'd spend in S. Crypt when you could be doing something more fun or making money some other way?

    +1 MoPG is ML 10 (RR) or 12
    +1 Holy of G_OB is also ML 10 (RR) or 12

    So you can filter based on that if you decide to go the AH route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakmireTS View Post
    Devout vs Metalline of PG vs Holy/Anarchic of G_OB involves the same amount of luck. You can run Shadow Crypt a thousand times and not see it, and you'll be spending massive time doing so if you're even moderately unlucky. Or you could just keep an eye on the AH for any combination that would work just as well or better. It comes down to which is going to cost you more, a few million gold (I paid 2 million for my +3 M of PG) or the hours and hours you'd spend in S. Crypt when you could be doing something more fun or making money some other way?

    +1 MoPG is ML 10 (RR) or 12
    +1 Holy of G_OB is also ML 10 (RR) or 12

    So you can filter based on that if you decide to go the AH route.
    On server Sarlona I have NEVER seen Metalline of PG wraps on the AH. Lucky dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakmireTS View Post
    Devout vs Metalline of PG vs Holy/Anarchic of G_OB involves the same amount of luck. You can run Shadow Crypt a thousand times and not see it, and you'll be spending massive time doing so if you're even moderately unlucky. Or you could just keep an eye on the AH for any combination that would work just as well or better. It comes down to which is going to cost you more, a few million gold (I paid 2 million for my +3 M of PG) or the hours and hours you'd spend in S. Crypt when you could be doing something more fun or making money some other way?

    +1 MoPG is ML 10 (RR) or 12
    +1 Holy of G_OB is also ML 10 (RR) or 12

    So you can filter based on that if you decide to go the AH route.
    You are incorrect. I've got them on both of my monks in about 40 runs combined. The drop rate is about 5%. Thousands of times is a rather large exaggeration. You should be able to get them within 20-40 runs, probably well before then. In 40 runs with a full group, it is a certainty a few of them will drop. If you want to spend 100 to 400K plat for handwraps on the AH, good on ya. Shaddow crypt can be easily completed in less than 15 minutes. Devout handwraps, like icey rainments (skellie runs) are obtainable within a specific timeframe and with a finite amount of effort. This can not be said of any GEOB, let alone anarchic, or holy of GEOB. T

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    I've found the anarchic smiting wraps work well enough with portal beating . For bosses been using +4 holy burst of pure good . Ya there prolly not the best to use . but it's either that or those +2 metaline of lessor evil outsider bane an I've found the holy burst of pure good wraps to parse slightly better ...

    I'd use better but there just hasn't been any terrific eye catching harry beaters on the AH of late . At least on Orien . On Sarlona got plenty harry beaters .^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeriphim View Post
    I've found the anarchic smiting wraps work well enough with portal beating . For bosses been using +4 holy burst of pure good .
    Your +4 holy burst of pure good would work better on portals than anarchic of smiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timjc86 View Post
    Your +4 holy burst of pure good would work better on portals than anarchic of smiting.
    very true . Tested it last night in shroud .

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