Newbie 28p (did I ruin the monk?)

[kattensund]

To start with, first monk, my highest other char is a wiz level 6 and a few other level 3-4 chars I removed and remade.
Im assuming the forums is getting overnuked with posts like mine "is this build good?!?!?!"
But im not curiouse if its good or not, just if I gimped myself to oblivion or if it actually works for a while longer.

Im playing with a few irl-friends so endgame wize im not really interested if im epicly good or avarage.
My concern is that im usefull solo (with a hench) or with friends, avarage or good earlygame is fine for me.
Since I seen alot of other topics around here im not shure if my build is enough due to other low stats, with all the ki-attacks and all that.

Im not familiar with all the short terms.. exept for WF (weapon finess?)
and TWF (two weapon fighting?) if I got that right.



This is my base-stats, I thought about going a fister, tried one with 20 dex and low str of 12 noticed my damage was so sucky I had to remake him again, thought WF made the attack damage go after dex aswell, but it was only the attack bonus. : (

Level 4 monk
Path of Invevitable dominion <-- picked that for the nice damage.
Way of the patient tortoise (extra consentration and hp)


Base stats
Str 17
Dex 17
Con 9 (added 1 point on level 4)
Int 8
Wis 10
Cha 8

Im going for mostly Balance, Consentration, Diplomacy and Jump.
(is diplomacy passive and USE or only use-effect for the reduced interest from monsters?)


Feats.
Dodge,
Power attack
Toughness <- To grab the extra hp and ench that gives hp.
Weapon focus Bludgeon. <-- fists is bludge right? : D

Two weapon fighting (not shure about this) <-- I heard TWF dont improve, but ITWF and.. is it GTWF?, hope I get the shortnames right.


My question is.. can I survive with this or will I miss something lateron?
At the moment it seems fine but as I stated, I got a bit scared if my monk is just good at level 1-5 or something , due to others builds being total different.

Hope for a reply

/Robbin

[AMDarkwolf]

As a wraps monk, you most defiantly DO want two weapon fighting tree, asap, because it will more than double your total attacks(In wind stance) unlike normal weapons(where it only adds an extra attack or two)

I'm also looking at your low wis, and feel you may feel the lack later on,esp since you state that you want to rely on ki strikesMost ki strikes rely on wis for thier saves DC's, a 10 wis means 16 total with +6 gear, which is a measly 3 wis mod, total save at 20 being 23. 23 DC on finishers/fists/palm is VERY low and most mobs won't fail a save except on a 1.

Also, that pathetic con WILL hurt you, no question about that. If hes lower than lv 10 i'd personally re-roll him now. You want 16 starting con(if 32 pt build) for earth IV stance(for the strikes, not the stance) and min 14 starting con if 28 pt build.

Also since this is your first monk, I HIGHLY suggest you go light path, NOT dark. A dark path monk takes lots of gear, planning, and a certain degree of knowledge with the game to do well. They are very expensive since you must rely on potions much more than a light path would.

For animal, i'd suggest hound(if halfling with cunning/guile) or monkey(For nice trap saves + passive resists)

For skills, focus primarily on concentration and balance. Dabble into jump, enough to hit 40 total then stop, tumble, enough to be positive(usually none with a dex build). Other options are spot, (to see hidden mobs, becomes obsolete when you get tharnes goggles) swim(not important at all, but slow swimming can be annoying..lol)

A monk can get by with lowish str and still be mid to top dps.

(a 16/16/16 dex/con/wis monk, halfling, all level ups into wis ends with 20/30/24/10/30/10 stats with relevant +6 stat gear -str, con, dex, wis- and inside wind IV, and has NO damage issues. A monk in wind IV with full TWF tree makes an ungodly number of attacks, and paired with a nice greater bane can REALLY cook up the damage.)

[kattensund]

As a wraps monk, you most defiantly DO want two weapon fighting tree, asap, because it will more than double your total attacks(In wind stance) unlike normal weapons(where it only adds an extra attack or two)

I'm also looking at your low wis, and feel you may feel the lack later on,esp since you state that you want to rely on ki strikesMost ki strikes rely on wis for thier saves DC's, a 10 wis means 16 total with +6 gear, which is a measly 3 wis mod, total save at 20 being 23. 23 DC on finishers/fists/palm is VERY low and most mobs won't fail a save except on a 1.

Also, that pathetic con WILL hurt you, no question about that. If hes lower than lv 10 i'd personally re-roll him now. You want 16 starting con(if 32 pt build) for earth IV stance(for the strikes, not the stance) and min 14 starting con if 28 pt build.

A monk can get by with lowish str and still be mid to top dps.

(a 16/16/16 dex/con/wis monk, halfling, all level ups into wis ends with 20/30/24/10/30/10 stats with relevent +6 stat gear -str, con, dex, wis- and inside wind IV, and has NO damage issues. A monk in wind IV with full TWF tree makes an ungodly number of attacks, and paired with a nice greater bane can REALLY cook up the damage.)

Thank you, about the con, I haven been worried about that, but im not willing to reroll atm, maby lateron when I can grab 32p build AND start at level 4.
I was thinking about something someone mentioned, around level 6, do monks get some kind of self-healing?
I know my brother took the other path early on, giving him a puny AOE heal and a chance to apply healing on hit to monsters.

Thanks for the input thou,I will try focus on my con as much as I can, if I feel like its dragging me down too much, I might reroll (when I can get the 32p)

[IgorHackNSlasher]

Do yourself a favor and reroll now, your con and wis are too low, if you took 1 pt out of str and dex that will free up 5 0r 6 build points to put into those two stats and make the character much more viable. Also the two weapon line is essential for monks, it grants extra attacks in the chain and more glancing blows also.

[AMDarkwolf]

you say your not 7, just (REALLY not trying to sound elitist) really suggest u reroll NOW< with a good strong stable build that will reach your level again very fast.

My 'first' toon was a 28 pt halfling monk, got to 19 (Shy of 20 by 1 bubble) 2k favor, and around 500 k gold, pretty much solo, inside one month from creation(Am not fudging numbers, It may have even been 2 weeks)

I then re-created the same build but as 32 pt build and am using that currently. With a good starting build you will FLY to 20.

And the self heal(Wholeness of body) is available at lv 7

Make yourself a halfling monk, 16/16 starting dex/wis, 14 con, 12(I think?) str, put all level ups into wis, and you will be fine.

[kattensund]

you say your not 7, just (REALLY not trying to sound elitist) really suggest u reroll NOW< with a good strong stable build that will reach your level again very fast.

My 'first' toon was a 28 pt halfling monk, got to 19 (Shy of 20 by 1 bubble) 2k favor, and around 500 k gold, pretty much solo, inside one month from creation(Am not fudging numbers, It may have even been 2 weeks)

I then re-created the same build but as 32 pt build and am using that currently. With a good starting build you will FLY to 20.

And the self heal(Wholeness of body) is available at lv 7

Make yourself a halfling monk, 16/16 starting dex/wis, 14 con, 12(I think?) str, put all level ups into wis, and you will be fine.

Seems like everyone wants me to reroll.
Well, im set on rerolling, but not now, dont see the real benefits until I unlocked the 32pt.
Thanks thou for all the inputs!