Finishing Moves

[JustWinBaby]

DISCLAIMER: This is not for me, but for a friend, so don't yell at me for being a noob and not knowing how to play the character. I have never played a monk, and probably never will, since they don't interest me.

My friend wants to know how to do finishing moves. He is a level 3 Dwarf Monk. He says his Ki bar is full but still can't do any Finishing Move, and that he has like 8 of them. Any help would be beneficial. Thanks.

[Ninetoes]

DISCLAIMER: This is not for me, but for a friend, so don't yell at me for being a noob and not knowing how to play the character. I have never played a monk, and probably never will, since they don't interest me.

My friend wants to know how to do finishing moves. He is a level 3 Dwarf Monk. He says his Ki bar is full but still can't do any Finishing Move, and that he has like 8 of them. Any help would be beneficial. Thanks.

Have him open up his feats tab, scroll down to finishing moves, and drag it to his hotbar. It's just one button, changes based on which opener he's used.

Also, "finishing" moves require a pattern of openers, like fire-fire-fire. By this,I mean "use your fire punch 3 times" and the finisher icon will change to reflect that you can now use Breath of the Fire Dragon.

If he's not using his elemental attacks, no finishers will be available. (he needs to drag those down to his hotbar from the feats page as well. they're under his stances as sub-options.)

[KKDragonLord]

I heard the Compendium tab Up there, had good information on classes...

the ddowiki.com is also an option

and maybe there might have been a few threads on this already, as well, so a search could prove helpful

[JustWinBaby]

I've looked at the Compendium, and I've googled this question but found nothing. Thanks for the 2nd post by the way.

[Cedwin]

I've looked at the Compendium, and I've googled the **** out of this question. Thanks for the 2nd post by the way.

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Class...nishing_Moves:

[TPICKRELL]

Have your friend take a look at: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ght=monk+guide

This Monk Guide contains much info about the monk, including the info on the finishers.

[JustWinBaby]

I did find that page on the Compendium but it didn't make sense. Well, now it does, and I also feel kind of dumb, so congratulations

Anyway, thanks, hopefully this will answer his question...if not, I'd say he's kind of hopeless

[Ninetoes]

I've looked at the Compendium, and I've googled this question but found nothing. Thanks for the 2nd post by the way.

You're welcome.

KKdrag meant the forum search option, not Google. The compendium does, in fact, answer all your friend's basic questions. What it doesn't do is tell him how to actually SEE the finishing move button, which I knew was probably half the problem.

[Cedwin]

What it doesn't do is tell him how to actually SEE the finishing move button, which I knew was probably half the problem.

Doesn't it put the finishing move button in the initial hotbar when you first roll a monk?

[KKDragonLord]

Doesn't it put the finishing move button in the initial hotbar when you first roll a monk?

To be fair, hes asking a question to explain to his friend.

what really helped most i think was ninetoes explanation of what finishers are and how they work (which the monk guide covers in a more detailed manner)

[Ninetoes]

Doesn't it put the finishing move button in the initial hotbar when you first roll a monk?

Good point. My original monk obviously didn't have them at starting level, from a few months ago before we got the 1st level stances for free. My current on was rolled as a vet and took rogue as starting level, so I'm not really sure what a brand new monk sees now. You're probably right. I suspect this problem was more of an organic one, possibly in not understanding how they actually worked.


OP: When you have your friend go into his feats and expands the Monk Finisher feat, it will list each possible finisher move, and the 3-hit combo needed to execute the finisher. Forgot to mention that, you friend also doesn't know which moves lead to what.

[Llewndyn]

I was under the (apparently false) assumption that the finishing move button, which IS there when you start out, CHANGES when a move becomes available. I looked around a little bit (obviously not enough, and I apologize if I caused any ire if things have to be rehashed) and saw stuff on monk builds and the like but nothing that really explained HOW to do a finishing move.

I was under the very wrong assumption that I did not have to drag the other finishing moves to my hot bar in order to use them, that the one finishing move button I do have would change. I will read the info you guys put into the thread, and please excuse my noobness.

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[Ninetoes]

I was under the (apparently false) assumption that the finishing move button, which IS there when you start out, CHANGES when a move becomes available. I looked around a little bit (obviously not enough, and I apologize if I caused any ire if things have to be rehashed) and saw stuff on monk builds and the like but nothing that really explained HOW to do a finishing move.

I was under the very wrong assumption that I did not have to drag the other finishing moves to my hot bar in order to use them, that the one finishing move button I do have would change. I will read the info you guys put into the thread, and please excuse my noobness.

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Wrong, as communicated in the 2nd post, the finishing move button DOES change based on what's available. For instance, at level 3, if you use Fists of Light 3 times, and you have not done one of the following:

1.) opened a door
2.) opened a chest
3.) swapped out gear
4.) picked up something off the ground.
5.) swapped stances
6.) cast a spell (for multiclasses like myself)
7.) used another ki strike

Then you will be able to use the healing finisher.

You do not drag the finishers to your hotbar, in fact, that will not work at all to the best of my knowledge.

All you need to do is to execute the correct Ki Strikes in the correct order, and then use the "finisher" button, as this changes based on what combo you used.

What you're running into is most likely the "i broke my chain" issue. Monk Finisher moves are finicky, doing almost anything will reset the combo chain.

[Cedwin]

Wrong, as communicated in the 2nd post, the finishing move button DOES change based on what's available. For instance, at level 3, if you use Fists of Light 3 times, and you have not done one of the following:

1.) opened a door
2.) opened a chest
3.) swapped out gear
4.) picked up something off the ground.
5.) swapped stances
6.) cast a spell (for multiclasses like myself)
7.) used another ki strike

8. Try to execute a finisher without having enough Ki.

[The_Duck]

8. Try to execute a finisher without having enough Ki.

^ THIS!

At level 3 your buddy will most likely NOT have enough Ki after hitting 3 moves (ie: fire fire fire). The "finisher button" will change and your buddy will hear electricity but could possibly not have enough Ki to actually complete the finishing move (in this case: burning hands or cone of fire or whatever).

Solution? Keep meleeing mobs until enough Ki is generated to fire off the finisher. You can fight mobs without nullifying the finishing move button and then fire off your finisher once enough Ki is generated.

have your friend experiment a little on easy mobs to generate ki, practice the combinations needed to activate the "finisher button" and then fire off a finisher.

the hardest part for noobie monks is learning what each combination activates and best use of each finisher.

PS: as mentioned above - opening chests or swapping gear, etc RESETS your c ombinations and you start from ZERO combo again. Something to keep in mind.

example: fire fire (loot a chest), now I need to go: fire fire fire again for my finisher to light up.

[Ninetoes]

^ THIS!

At level 3 your buddy will most likely NOT have enough Ki after hitting 3 moves (ie: fire fire fire). The "finisher button" will change and your buddy will hear electricity but could possibly not have enough Ki to actually complete the finishing move (in this case: burning hands or cone of fire or whatever).

I specifically left this scenario out because of the OP's statement:

My friend wants to know how to do finishing moves. He is a level 3 Dwarf Monk. He says his Ki bar is full but still can't do any Finishing Move, and that he has like 8 of them. Any help would be beneficial. Thanks.

I only included situations in which his Ki bar would be "full" but he would be unable to execute a finishing move. I assumed the most likely causes of this were either not having the finishing move icon on his hotbar (since disproved) or breaking the combo chain by doing any of the multitude of things that will break it.

It's also important to know that targeting comes into play here. Take Breath of the Fire Dragon, for example. If you've accidentally targeted something, and are not facing it when you attempt to use BotFD, it will blow the chain and you'll have to start over. Solution: make sure nothing is hard targeted when using said ability, unless it is a single target effect. Make sure you can actually hit them with it, as the ability will fire off regardless of whether or not you connect with them.