To the leader of that pug crucible last night

**Gelmir87** · 03-10-2010, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Garth_of_Sarlona

In fact, cloudkill does not do damage to those creatures immune to poison effects, and red named are immune to poison.

Nevertheless, I agree with you that it's still a useful spell on red named just because of the concealment bonus.

Garth

Sorry Garth, but you are wrong. With the update in CON damage not killing mobs, they buffed CK by adding acid damage to it. So you're right in the fact that it does no con damage, but it still deals acid damage and also add concealment. Also, the acid-damage is not poison based as I've seen it do damage to Epic Wiz King Guardians and to Harry.

As for FW, it does not stack when placed on top of each other, but they do still do damage if they are near each other. In general, I create a line of them and kite mobs through the whole line, works every time...

**Garth_of_Sarlona** · 03-10-2010, 04:42 PM

**Cyr** · 03-10-2010, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by MrCow

If a monster is immune to poison (which includes all red-named critters and bosses) then it is immune to cloudkill fully, because it deals poison-based CON damage and poison-based acid damage.

Okay we've got two arcanes saying two different things now. Bleh, I really don't want to unlock my gimp arcane for five dollars any chance of a screen shot of the acid damage on a red named if someone is sure of it?

**MeliCat** · 03-10-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Montrose

Nahhh. Other than weapons I usually don't bother twinking toons at all until level 13 (at which point one can wear +6 items).

There are, maybe, 2 or 3 quests prior to level 13 that you would need a UW item for (delera, tempest spine, ... others?).

... and your Minos Legens at level 11? Or just no fort at all for 2 levels? o.O

**Garth_of_Sarlona** · 03-10-2010, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cyr

Okay we've got two arcanes saying two different things now. Bleh, I really don't want to unlock my gimp arcane for five dollars any chance of a screen shot of the acid damage on a red named if someone is sure of it?

I just tested it with a red named.

I was getting concealed but as the red named entered the CK I saw the 'immune' sparkly little thing, and he took no acid dmg. This is vs a red named kobold in Kobold's New Ringleader so there's no way he could have any innate acid resistance. I can post screenshots if you want but I'm lazy...

Garth

**Cyr** · 03-10-2010, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Garth_of_Sarlona

I just tested it with a red named.

I was getting concealed but as the red named entered the CK I saw the 'immune' sparkly little thing, and he took no acid dmg. This is vs a red named kobold in Kobold's New Ringleader so there's no way he could have any innate acid resistance. I can post screenshots if you want but I'm lazy...

Garth

nope that's good enough for me. thanks garth.

**Montrose** · 03-10-2010, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by MeliCat

... and your Minos Legens at level 11? Or just no fort at all for 2 levels? o.O

Oh, duh. You are entirelly correct. I forgot about minos. It's so standard equipment that I take it for granted.

**Fourfingers** · 03-10-2010, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Cyr

Okay we've got two arcanes saying two different things now.

No, what we have is two different people with multiple thousand posts each stating that CK doesn't deal acid damage to red named vs. one person with a comparative handfull of posts claiming otherwise. I know which I'll believe.

**moops** · 03-10-2010, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Garth_of_Sarlona

I just tested it with a red named.

I was getting concealed but as the red named entered the CK I saw the 'immune' sparkly little thing, and he took no acid dmg. This is vs a red named kobold in Kobold's New Ringleader so there's no way he could have any innate acid resistance. I can post screenshots if you want but I'm lazy...

Garth

OOOOO is this how we get you to play? I've got some ah, "testing" that we need to do tonight

I was finally able to give you rep again

Also to Others:
Trust In the Cow

**xxScoobyDooxx** · 03-10-2010, 05:10 PM

Thought it was our pug in Crucible last night. Most of us hadn't done it or had only done it a few times but we bumbled through it and completed in under 90 minutes I think. We were trying to flag for the raid but some of us got XP as well. I put up the LFM so I guess I was the leader ..... that didn't know what to do

.... Hats off to Hatts

he showed us the way and a couple of others knew it I think but were kinda quiet or shy ??? maybe they didn't speak English well .... not sure but it didn't matter.

I think we all enjoyed it ... I know I did ..... only POP to go now and my Monk is ready for the Raid ... yay

Interesting but a couple of people wouldn't join the PUG because they were part of a 4 hour marathon the previous night in Crucible which didn't finish ..... they said never ever again lolz ........

**rimble** · 03-10-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Fourfingers

No, what we have is two different people with multiple thousand posts each stating that CK doesn't deal acid damage to red named vs. one person with a comparative handfull of posts claiming otherwise. I know which I'll believe.

Yeah, I didn't have a whole lot of indecisiveness on that one either...

**Garth_of_Sarlona** · 03-10-2010, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by moops

OOOOO is this how we get you to play? I've got some ah, "testing" that we need to do tonight

I was finally able to give you rep again

Also to Others:
Trust In the Cow

I'll be online tonight, but I find it easier to schedule stuff than just pop online and hang around, I'm just v busy atm - so if you post that a raid is happening I'll be there...

And always trust in the Cow. I'm just pleased my summon cow spell worked... must... not... abuse... the power!!!

Garth

**Thrudh** · 03-10-2010, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Cyr

This falls under the don't yell at another party member for doing something useful and telling them it is dumb.

The other night I was doing a SoS run on my ranger with a solid group... All members of a elite guild...

We get to the fire part... The monk pulls all the efreeti away while we kill the fire giant.. Giant is dead, monk comes back with like 7 efreeti all lined up chasing him... Everyone else runs forward to melee... I pull out my bow and hit manyshot.

NOTE: I hadn't used my bow at all up to this point

I hear some serious disdain over voice chat... "If you're going to use a bow, I'm not responsible for healing you... I'm using mass cures only"

I tried to explain Improved Precise Shot, manyshot, and the beauty of 7 efreetis all lined up in a row, but I don't think they wanted to listen to me...

They were an awesome group... I hate thinking such good players may have marked me down as a gimp for what was actually a smart move...

**Thrudh** · 03-10-2010, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by MeliCat

... and your Minos Legens at level 11? Or just no fort at all for 2 levels? o.O

And Planar Gird at 9!

**Drakos** · 03-10-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Fourfingers

No, what we have is two different people with multiple thousand posts each stating that CK doesn't deal acid damage to red named vs. one person with a comparative handfull of posts claiming otherwise. I know which I'll believe.

It's a slippery slope you travel when you start equating post count to intelligence, or even good advice or knowledge of the rules/systems. There are poepole who plst alot who have NO clue and there are those who have good knowledge, but tend to lurk and not post.

In this case however, your criteria panned out.

**moops** · 03-10-2010, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Thrudh

And Planar Gird at 9!

Lol ya. . .I can't believe all the "Elite" players I've met in Pugs who still at lvl 14 don't have one on their noob. Im not talking new players, but well known richer than god players.

Really GH makes more of a difference on your Midbies then on your cappped and geared out lvl 20s--so let your noob borrow one for a bit if you don't want to buy one.

Nothing irks me more than having to use a scroll on someone that I just paid 900K plat to for an item last week

And yes I can afford it but I want to fight , nto stand around scrolling and buffing all day

**Quikster** · 03-10-2010, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Gelmir87

As for FW, it does not stack when placed on top of each other,

This is not entirely correct either.

**Quikster** · 03-10-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by moops

Lol ya. . .I can't believe all the "Elite" players I've met in Pugs who still at lvl 14 don't have one on their noob. Im not talking new players, but well known richer than god players.

Really GH makes more of a difference on your Midbies then on your cappped and geared out lvl 20s--so let your noob borrow one for a bit if you don't want to buy one.

Nothing irks me more than having to use a scroll on someone that I just paid 900K plat to for an item last week

And yes I can afford it but I want to fight , nto stand around scrolling and buffing all day

gh please.

**moops** · 03-10-2010, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Quikster

gh please.

Alts are like babies, don't have them if ya can't afford to feed and clothe them

)))))))

<3

**stazer** · 03-10-2010, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by moops

Lol ya. . .I can't believe all the "Elite" players I've met in Pugs who still at lvl 14 don't have one on their noob. Im not talking new players, but well known richer than god players.

Really GH makes more of a difference on your Midbies then on your cappped and geared out lvl 20s--so let your noob borrow one for a bit if you don't want to buy one.

Nothing irks me more than having to use a scroll on someone that I just paid 900K plat to for an item last week

And yes I can afford it but I want to fight , nto stand around scrolling and buffing all day

does this have anything to do with "shrimping"?

still looking for a response.

p.s. isnt quick in your guild, I would think he gets a pass

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