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    Default Crossroads - what would you do?

    I just parked a FvS at 7th lvl. Had a blast running up to level with max spec'd Soundburst - uber crowd control for those levels. But at current level, it may be time to retire my Evocation spell feats. SoundBurst is simply not landing often enough to justify the 2 feats. I still want it for lesser crowd control, so I need some experts here to check my logic:

    Remember, this toon will be perma-parked at 7th level.

    Current Feats:
    Mental Toughness (human bonus feat)
    Emp Healing
    Spell Focus - Evocation
    Greater Spell Focus - Evocation

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    empower healing x1.5 heal/undead +10sp
    empower x1.5 damage/heal +15sp - dont like turning it on/off
    maximize x2 damage/heal +25sp -dont like turning it on/off
    heighten +5 per spell lvl raised


    Best spells(?): 4/3/2 793 SP

    1st lvl (sp 10)
    command (will dc20)

    2nd lvl (sp 15)
    cmw 2d8+7 (vs undead, will save for 1/2)
    inflict moderate (2d8+7)
    soundburst (fort dc23)

    3rd lvl (sp 20)
    csw 3d8+7 (vs undead, will save for 1/2)
    searing light (3d8 living / 7d6 undead)
    inflict serious (3d8+7)

    Option1: drop Grtr Spell Focus Evocation for Heighten. No change in SB dc, +2 dc for Command. But I'll be paying +10 sp per Command and +5 per Soundburst.

    Option2: drop both SF Evocation feats for Maximize and Empower. Will be wasting mana on inflict and searing, but I'm a FvS, right?

    Option3: drop Emp Healing for Maximize. +50% to heals/inflict, and opens up x2 damage for the gimpy searing light. But I always forget to turn Max off.

    Option4: drop both SF Evocation feats for Empower and Maximize. Opens up max damage for inflict and searing, but prob a waste of mana. I havent really played around with inflict wounds yet...
    Also, SB seems to be the only crowd control spell amoung 1st-3rd lvl spells. Gimping my crowd control?

    Option5: ??


    Let me know what you think.
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    drop both evocations, pick up a toughness and maximize. i would also drop mental toughness - you're not going to need the sp's at cap or really on the way there if you can afford heal scrolls. replace with empower. you lose the CC for now but you get it back at level 12 with blade barrier, the ultimate cc for an fvs. saves you from changing it at later levels with the big shards too.
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    weyoun, the toon's parked at 7th level. I'm not runnng her to cap.

    i would also drop mental toughness
    Although thats a good idea I didn't think of.

    I might be able to get by without mental toughness at 7th (40 SP) which frees up another feat slot.

    793 sp VS 753 sp and 1 feat. Hmmm...
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    oh wow. ok then. um. I thought you were parked at 7 because you were frustrated or waiting to change feats.

    I would still take the toughness feat. Keep mental toughness maybe then. Drop both evo's. Do you have much umd?
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    no umd


    uh oh. Did I forget something important re UMD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrisulven6 View Post
    no umd


    uh oh. Did I forget something important re UMD?
    not at lvl7, if you park there you can also dont care about it
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    Default Crossroads - what would you do?

    Personally, If I was ever confronted by Papa Legba and offered the chance to play the blues for my soul, I'd probably do it. Bluesmen get all the chicks.


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    No not really. I have it on my fvs. It helps to be able to use caster-cc and invis. It can get you out of a lot of tight spots. I'm not sure how useful it would be on a level 7 or how high you could get it as an afterthought.

    You may be able to get one of those evo focuses back through the use of gear if you go to level 8 using the robe of fire or find a ML 6 evo focus item. Soundburst is nice at low levels but I honestly have to say I level so fast that I select spells for end-game so I don't have to change them. I'm level 7 for about an hour or so. Sorry I can't be more help.
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    You may be able to get one of those evo focuses back through the use of gear if you.. find a ML 6 evo focus item
    Already have one figured into the 23 DC.



    I guess the problem is that SB is the only good cc spell until you can cast 4th level spells. So if thats my spec, I should just follow it to max DC?

    Maybe I should just drop Mental Toughness for Heighten. Lose 40 SP but gain another +1 to SB dc for +5sp per casting, and +2 to Command dc for +10sp per casting.

    I'll amp the Inflicts/Searing with items instead and save that mana. Wont be as effective as max/emp though, but i gotta have some cc.

    Queston is will the +1 for SB (dc 24) make enough difference for SB to feel uber again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrisulven6 View Post
    Already have one figured into the 23 DC.



    I guess the problem is that SB is the only good cc spell until you can cast 4th level spells. So if thats my spec, I should just follow it to max DC?

    Maybe I should just drop Mental Toughness for Heighten. Lose 40 SP but gain another +1 to SB dc for +5sp per casting, and +2 to Command dc for +10sp per casting.

    I'll amp the Inflicts/Searing with items instead and save that mana. Wont be as effective as max/emp though, but i gotta have some cc.

    Queston is will the +1 for SB (dc 24) make enough difference for SB to feel uber again?

    Not if you are running a lot of Deleras, obviously. You can always change it and change it back later if it doesn't work out.
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    Default Hmm...

    Since I don't play an FvS, I can't really comment on how you should configure your toon, but I am curious - why have you parked her at level 7? (I'm also curious why this is on the Cleric forum, but that's much less inteesting)
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    Well, I kept the Emp Heal since my primary role is Combat Healing.

    Dropped Mental Toughness for Heighten, not missing the points.

    Ran Tangle and Tear elites and was landing SB stun like crazy, so I guess the +1 made the diff.

    Thanks all for the advice!

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    seriously though, why level 7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralgnax View Post
    I am curious - why have you parked her at level 7?
    I mostly pug in the afternoons where groups are slim pickings, having healers parked at different levels means I can always find a group when I want.

    Plus, its good for the low level newbies to see by example that you don't need to be a healbot or battlecleric to be effective.

    I parked this one at 7th to experiment with the crit range of the Silver Longbow, and to fill in the gap between my 4th lvl and 9th lvl clerics.

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    Default Ok

    So, if I understand you correctly , "Parked" here means "leveling very slowly" rather than "Not leveling at all" as I had thought. Is that right?
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    Parked means parked, ie. not leveling anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrisulven6 View Post
    Parked means parked, ie. not leveling anymore
    So, I guess I am confused and/or just not groking what you're saying. Is the character:
    1. No longer adventuring at all? (And if so, why do you care what their build is ?)
    2. Adventuring but not getting any experience? (If no experience, that would have to be by doing very low level quests, no?)
    3. Something else (if so, what, exactly?)

    None of this is important, but I am curious.

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    LOL.

    I have three clerics that are "parked" - I still play them, but I do not level them up, ie my 9th lvl cleric is 1 XP short of 11th lvl.

    She still gets XP awarded from quests normally, she just cant use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrisulven6 View Post
    LOL.

    I have three clerics that are "parked" - I still play them, but I do not level them up, ie my 9th lvl cleric is 1 XP short of 11th lvl.

    She still gets XP awarded from quests normally, she just cant use it.
    Ah, ok, so you've just gone to the "1 XP short of two levels above" point and stuck there. Now I think I understand. I'd never thought of that - cool option.
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