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    Lightbulb what ya think

    So we have THF and TWF lines and neither apply to handwraps the main source of monk dps what do you guys think of a unarmed fighting line

    unarmed combat 1.... possibly +1 to hit while unarmed or using handwraps

    improved unarmed combat 2....... adds 1 adtl attack w/ animation while unarmed or using handwraps

    Greater unarmed combat 3..... adds 1 final attack w/ animation while unarmed or using handwraps or perhaps a bonus to crit dammage

    this would bring handwraps and the monk as a whole more in line with two weapon and two handed fighting lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    So we have THF and TWF lines and neither apply to handwraps the main source of monk dps what do you guys think of a unarmed fighting line

    unarmed combat 1.... possibly +1 to hit while unarmed or using handwraps

    improved unarmed combat 2....... adds 1 adtl attack w/ animation while unarmed or using handwraps

    Greater unarmed combat 3..... adds 1 final attack w/ animation while unarmed or using handwraps or perhaps a bonus to crit dammage

    this would bring handwraps and the monk as a whole more in line with two weapon and two handed fighting lines
    You need to do more research if you think TWF doesn't apply to wraps. TWF is the most important feat line to get as a monk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impatiens View Post
    You need to do more research if you think TWF doesn't apply to wraps. TWF is the most important feat line to get as a monk.
    I do have TWF as a monk but i may of been unclear we do not get two weapons unless we use kamas witch suck if handwraps are not weapons as concidered for this (we cannot place anything in our off hand) and are not THF as is clear i think their should be a unarmed combat feat line. or we should gain use of our off hand (this would be over powered tho clearly unballanced at lower levels)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    I do have TWF as a monk but i may of been unclear we do not get two weapons unless we use kamas witch suck if handwraps are not weapons as concidered for this (we cannot place anything in our off hand) and are not THF as is clear i think their should be a unarmed combat feat line. or we should gain use of our off hand (this would be over powered tho clearly unballanced)
    The TWF feats give extra attacks with your handwraps, FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    I do have TWF as a monk but i may of been unclear we do not get two weapons unless we use kamas witch suck if handwraps are not weapons as concidered for this (we cannot place anything in our off hand) and are not THF as is clear i think their should be a unarmed combat feat line. or we should gain use of our off hand (this would be over powered tho clearly unballanced at lower levels)

    You gain extra attacks with handwraps through the TWF line. No one would take that line if it were only for kamas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    I do have TWF as a monk but i may of been unclear we do not get two weapons unless we use kamas witch suck if handwraps are not weapons as concidered for this (we cannot place anything in our off hand) and are not THF as is clear i think their should be a unarmed combat feat line. or we should gain use of our off hand (this would be over powered tho clearly unballanced at lower levels)
    TWF gives you extra attack hooks when fighting with wraps. Kind of like the off hand attacks, except you get FULL str mod for damage on the extra attack hooks.

    Two weapon defense and tempest do not apply to wraps, though, since they are not weapons. But the extra attacks from the main TWF line do apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trillea View Post
    The TWF feats give extra attacks with your handwraps, FYI.
    and yet only gives us one weapon. two weapon fighting would imply two weapons i cant equip anything in my off hand so its not a gracefull fit is all im saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    and yet only gives us one weapon. two weapon fighting would imply two weapons i cant equip anything in my off hand so its not a gracefull fit is all im saying
    Your hands are the weapons, the wraps just "enchant" them. I'm pretty sure your character has two hands

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    How does a person with a join date of 2008 just figure out that the TWF feat line applies to unarmed combat??? The Developers really need to add that in the description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taimasan View Post
    How does a person with a join date of 2008 just figure out that the TWF feat line applies to unarmed combat??? The Developers really need to add that in the description.
    Well it's not like we EVER post that info in the monk forums. I mean seriously, it's a secret
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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    and yet only gives us one weapon. two weapon fighting would imply two weapons i cant equip anything in my off hand so its not a gracefull fit is all im saying
    what part of twf applies to handwraps are you failing to understand?

    it gives you more attacks ie, it treats handwraps as two weapons


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taimasan View Post
    How does a person with a join date of 2008 just figure out that the TWF feat line applies to unarmed combat??? The Developers really need to add that in the description.
    what does join date have to do with accurate knowledge of the game ?

    hint......nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLAKROC View Post
    what does join date have to do with accurate knowledge of the game ?

    hint......nothing
    Before you posted that I guess i suppose I found that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLAKROC View Post
    what part of twf applies to handwraps are you failing to understand?

    it gives you more attacks ie, it treats handwraps as two weapons


    it's not rocket science.

    Looks like this concept is much harder to grasp for some.

    Also take into account the OP was ranting about Stunning Fist being taken out of the game, so, yea, not much of any MNK knowledge there at all.

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    Which is why they need to sticky the TWF is for Unarmed/Handwrap combat!!!! thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedwin View Post
    Which is why they need to sticky the TWF is for Unarmed/Handwrap combat!!!! thread.
    I support this initiative.



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    So...does TWF affect handwraps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taimasan View Post
    How does a person with a join date of 2008 just figure out that the TWF feat line applies to unarmed combat??? The Developers really need to add that in the description.
    didn't just find out

    stated its not a perfect fit, handwraps should be weapons your weapon doesn't enchant your arm with a 3 foot blade. its bs read what i said its not a prefect fit i think they could do better

    just my opionion.

    anyone else think an improvement could be made or are we just going to flame each other

    /flame on

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    Quote Originally Posted by redgod View Post
    So we have THF and TWF lines and neither apply to handwraps the main source of monk dps what do you guys think of a unarmed fighting line
    If you didn't just find out what did that statement mean??

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    What they need to do is just put a "ghostly" version of the weapon in the off-hand item slot whenever you equip a pair of handwraps, signifying the use of both hands, and thus (hopefully) making it obvious that TWF will benefit unarmed.

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