Blade Barrier?

[dragonman59]

Hello, i'm a pure healing lvl 12 favored soul, im wondering if its worth it to get blade barrier at lvl 13 even without maxmize/extend/empower, and i have very poor DCs since i have a low wisdom, my DC would be of 18

[Fennario]

Not sure why you wouldn't have at least one of maximize or empower even on a melee fvs.

If it were me I'd pick it up along with maximize. I couldn't imagine not having blade barrier on my fvs or cleric.

[dragonman59]

ty for the reply but im not a melee, im just a fvs with almost only healing spells, but i can consider a feat swap for maximize, thx for the advice

[Impatiens]

Maximize will effect your cure spells too, just not Heal/Mass Heal. It's definitely worth having and having BB. If things don't have evasion they will still take damage even if they save, it will just be half damage instead.

[Matuse]

Healbot = ungodly boring, and inefficient use of a party slot.

Blade Barrier = death incarnate.

Seems simple to me. I'd consider a reincarnate to get yourself decent Wisdom though. You're shortchanging your party by being so ineffectual at crowd control and killing.

[dragonman59]

Yes, was thinking about LR, i was a ''no0b'' when i created this character, didn't know wisdom was useful for a FvS

[DrNuegebauer]

Healbot = ungodly boring, and inefficient use of a party slot.

Blade Barrier = death incarnate.

Seems simple to me. I'd consider a reincarnate to get yourself decent Wisdom though. You're shortchanging your party by being so ineffectual at crowd control and killing.

Correct.

How can you have no wisdom on a 'pure healer'?!?

LR as a human, take maximum wisdom (18 = 16 points), put 6 points into charisma (gives you 14, which is plenty of SP), then spend the remaining 10 points on con (6), str/dex/int - you choose (dex for AC, str for some reason?, int for skill points).

You'll be a nice nuker by the time you hit the higher levels (all level up stats into wisdom).

Oh - and you can still be a great healer.

[AylinIsAwesome]

Correct.

How can you have no wisdom on a 'pure healer'?!?

Some newer players think that healing Favoured Souls need max CHA instead of max WIS. Turbine's basic builds for FvS don't help with this.

LR as a human, take maximum wisdom (18 = 16 points), put 6 points into charisma (gives you 14, which is plenty of SP), then spend the remaining 10 points on con (6), str/dex/int - you choose (dex for AC, str for some reason?, int for skill points).

If the OP is not a Human already, there is no way to switch to Human with LR. Only TR can change race or alignment.

You'll be a nice nuker by the time you hit the higher levels (all level up stats into wisdom).

Oh - and you can still be a great healer.

True, though I'd go with 12 CHA, with maybe some points into STR or INT. But I'm a skill point junkie.

[~Tago_Bane]

Correct.



You'll be a nice nuker by the time you hit the high levels

IMO save the nuking for casters... I have struggled through too many quest because some cleric or fvs joined an lfm (that was asking for a healer) and the "healer" played like they were a sorcerer.

[dragonman59]

LR as a human

Really?

[Spindrake]

I play a melee FvS with low wisdom, and I did get BB.
With no maximize, extend, and low wisdom, it is very situational, it's not necessary (although if it's your only source of dps!). I use it very rarely on a melee FvS, between the casting cost, time to cast, need to move around to get mobs to hit it repeatedly, it's best used on certain bosses or big groups of trash that are affected by it out of laziness. It's never been "necessary". As an offensive spell in general it's superb, just much harder to get good use of with low offensive casting spec.

As people have pointed out, you can easily go:

great healer, good buffer, good offensive caster, poor melee
great healer, good buffer, OK melee dps, poor offensive caster

You'd probably be happier long run to pick one of those two, and stat accordingly. Plenty of both builds on the forums. Biggest choice after that would be 20fvs or 18/2. (no clear winner there IMO).

If you *ever* solo, either of these two builds are superb soloers in many cases. While your group is clearing trash (sometimes 90% of a quest), you would do far more for the group as either of these, than on sitting around topping people off. You may also have only one person heal in most regular quests, and the other DPS, and when low on SP, switch roles, to prevent overhealing and distracted healer syndrome. I wouldn't be happy with any build that didn't allow me to solo, and switch roles, on the fly.

[Hellllboy]

Hello, i'm a pure healing lvl 12 favored soul, im wondering if its worth it to get blade barrier at lvl 13 even without maxmize/extend/empower, and i have very poor DCs since i have a low wisdom, my DC would be of 18

BB is the cornerstone of a good Divine Caster. It opens the door to a lot of solo play for you.

I dont ever like to tell people how to play a character-but you will do 10 times the dmg. by kiting enemies through a Max/Emp. BB than you will doing melee damage. (250-280 per tick)

Im not sure if you invested a great deal on CHA vs. WIS, but the spell point accumulation between a 12 CHA (Starting) and an 18 CHA (Starting) are insignificant at end game.

I am not sure how you distributed stats and what you focused on for your build-but if it were me-id LR and max my WIS-put a pretty good # into CHA and CON and let everything else fall where it will.

[~Tago_Bane]

[/QUOTE]I dont ever like to tell people how to play a character-but you will do 10 times the dmg. by kiting enemies through a Max/Emp. BB than you will doing melee damage. (250-280 per tick)[/QUOTE]

That's all well and good but how often do you kite mobs? (outside of soloing which is time consuming at high lvs) the honest truth is you will spend much more time actually doing damage if you are a melee build. and less time dumping sp while the party epicly fails at kiting a single mob.

[Hellllboy]

That's all well and good but how often do you kite mobs? (outside of soloing which is time consuming at high lvs) the honest truth is you will spend much more time actually doing damage if you are a melee build. and less time dumping sp while the party epicly fails at kiting a single mob.

All the time.

To the point where I wonder why I even carry a sword anymore.

[Kyrn]

All the time.

To the point where I wonder why I even carry a sword anymore.

1) Not all mobs are easily kitable though. (ranged/caster mobs)
2) Sometimes you need selective DPS. (Acolytes in Inferno of the Damned, Cursed Crypt
3) sometimes it's just more SP efficient. (single mobs)

[Hellllboy]

1) Not all mobs are easily kitable though. (ranged/caster mobs)
2) Sometimes you need selective DPS. (Acolytes in Inferno of the Damned, Cursed Crypt
3) sometimes it's just more SP efficient. (single mobs)

Very true

In such cases-I either drop an implosion, let my melee friends get them or just keep on truck'n if they don’t follow and are not required for the end objective.

I can beat down stuff if I had to (or heck, even drop a Bladesworn Transformation)-and there are some circumstances where this is justified. I am just pointing out that the other 85% of the time-you can have a lot of fun with BB.

[DargoTrox]

I built an offensive casting FvS and at lvl 20 with maximize and empower her BB's hit bt 350 to 500. Even for high lvl content she can beast them, tho with the massive mana pool at lvl 20 I have found that she has had no problems healing for just about any quest. I really don't know of one quest that she couldn't heal for.

At lvl 20 her Wis is 32 and Cha 30 tho due to this being a test build when the FvS came out I need to Fix a few little issues with her via LR or GR.

Now the only dislike that I have is that due to her being Drow(min max on wis and cha) she is feat starved, so she doesn't have empower healing, tho once she has the full Lorriks champion set I really don't see any character build out side of it being a freak of nature that can take one of her heals and not be at full health, aside the zero healers friend WF fail build.

Now with this build she works for healing or dmg on most quest and healing for all quest. Select quest shes limited to only healing tho in others their is no other class that can finish the quest as fast as she can.

If built right when it comes to stats, tomes and gear I don't really see the FvS being gimped at healing and offensive casting.

As for the standard group if you want magical dmg pick a sorc/wiz and a true healing FvS with pure cha would be an epic heal/buff bot.

[Kirlian]

Hello, i'm a pure healing lvl 12 favored soul, im wondering if its worth it to get blade barrier at lvl 13 even without maxmize/extend/empower, and i have very poor DCs since i have a low wisdom, my DC would be of 18

if you have low wis dont be bother with any of these, later in the game you will find mobs with evasion/ high reflex save. no point. unless you maxed your wisdom and take some empower and other feats as well.