My wife and I have started playing and I am looking to roll a cleric that is balanced (can melee, can heal, and can cast some offensive spells) and can find and open traps - she is rolling a tempest ranger than can open locks. The idea being that we can duo any dungeon and still contribute to group play. This is where I am at with the current build, any advice is apperciated.
Thanx!
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Cleric) Hit Points: 242 Spell Points: 1250 BAB: 14\14\19\24 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 7 Will: 16 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 16 16 Dexterity 8 8 Constitution 14 14 Intelligence 14 14 Wisdom 16 20 Charisma 8 8 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 3 3 Bluff -1 -1 Concentration 4 22 Diplomacy 3 3 Disable Device 6 25 Haggle 3 3 Heal 5 7 Hide -1 -1 Intimidate -1 -1 Jump 7 8 Listen 7 9 Move Silently -1 -1 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair 2 2 Search 2 2 Spot 7 28 Swim 7 7 Tumble 3 3 Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness Level 2 (Cleric) Level 3 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Level 4 (Cleric) Level 5 (Cleric) Level 6 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Level 7 (Cleric) Level 8 (Cleric) Level 9 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Level 10 (Cleric) Level 11 (Cleric) Level 12 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration Level 13 (Cleric) Level 14 (Cleric) Level 15 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Level 16 (Cleric) Level 17 (Cleric) Level 18 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Level 19 (Cleric) Level 20 (Cleric)
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03-31-2010, 05:40 PM #1Community Member
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help with build (18clr/1rog/1ftr)
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03-31-2010, 05:48 PM #2Community Member
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About the level split, you're missing out on evasion, which is IMHO a shame since you are splashing your cleric already, I'd take a second rouge level for that.
I don't see your search skill maximized which is a must, since unless you can search the traps box, you cannot disable it at all. Put at least a few skills into OpenLock, since at level 1 you shuold have tons of skillpoints anyway.
If your wife has a rogue splash already on a ragnger, id take the other route and drop rogue from your cleric and take e.g. 2 fighter levels. So you can get THF. She should be able to max out all trap skills on the ranger since the ranger gets more skills per level and has search and spot as class skills.
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03-31-2010, 06:36 PM #3Community Member
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That's similar to something I built for a guildie. I'll post it here so you can look at it for reference if you'd like.
For 32-point (which I see you have, yay!
), I'd raise the DEX up some for a better Reflex Save. Or more STR.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.32 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 True Neutral Human Male (1 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 17 Cleric) Hit Points: 270 Spell Points: 1262 BAB: 14\14\19\24 Fortitude: 14 Reflex: 7 Will: 12 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 14 19 20 Dexterity 8 8 8 Constitution 14 14 14 Intelligence 16 16 16 Wisdom 14 14 14 Charisma 8 8 8 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 3 12 12 Bluff -1 -1 -1 Concentration 4 4 4 Diplomacy -1 -1 -1 Disable Device 7 26 26 Haggle 3 3 3 Heal 4 4 4 Hide -1 -1 -1 Intimidate -1 -1 -1 Jump 6 9 9 Listen 6 6 6 Move Silently -1 -1 -1 Open Lock 3 3 3 Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair 3 3 3 Search 7 26 26 Spot 6 6 6 Swim 2 5 5 Tumble 3 3 3 Use Magic Device 3 22 22 Level 1 (Rogue) Skill: Balance (+4) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Disable Device (+4) Skill: Haggle (+4) Skill: Heal (+2) Skill: Jump (+4) Skill: Listen (+4) Skill: Open Lock (+4) Skill: Search (+4) Skill: Spot (+4) Skill: Tumble (+4) Skill: Use Magic Device (+4) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding Level 2 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead Spell (1): Bane Spell (1): Bless Spell (1): Cause Fear Spell (1): Command Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Doom Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds Spell (1): Nightshield Spell (1): Nimbus of Light Spell (1): Obscuring Mist Spell (1): Protection From Evil Spell (1): Remove Fear Spell (1): Shield of Faith Spell (1): Summon Monster I Level 3 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Level 4 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (2): Aid Spell (2): Bear's Endurance Spell (2): Bull's Strength Spell (2): Close Wounds Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (2): Deific Vengance Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor Spell (2): Find Traps Spell (2): Hold Person Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds Spell (2): Lesser Restoration Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom Spell (2): Remove Paralysis Spell (2): Resist Energy Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest Spell (2): Soundburst Spell (2): Spawn Screen Spell (2): Summon Monster II Level 5 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 6 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Spell (3): Bestow Curse Spell (3): Blindness Spell (3): Contagion Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds Spell (3): Dispel Magic Spell (3): Glyph of Warding Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Spell (3): Mass Aid Spell (3): Prayer Spell (3): Protection From Energy Spell (3): Remove Blindness Spell (3): Remove Curse Spell (3): Remove Disease Spell (3): Searing Light Spell (3): Summon Monster III Spell (3): Water Breathing Level 7 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 8 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (4): Chaos Hammer Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds Spell (4): Deathward Spell (4): Dismissal Spell (4): Divine Power Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (4): Holy Smite Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith Spell (4): Neutralize Poison Spell (4): Order's Wrath Spell (4): Poison Spell (4): Recitation Spell (4): Restoration Spell (4): Summon Monster IV Spell (4): Symbol of Flame Spell (4): Unholy Blight Level 9 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness Level 10 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (5): Break Enchantment Spell (5): Flame Strike Spell (5): Greater Command Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds Spell (5): Protection From Elements Spell (5): Raise Dead Spell (5): Slay Living Spell (5): Spell Resistance Spell (5): Stalwart Pact Spell (5): Summon Monster V Spell (5): Symbol of Pain Spell (5): True Seeing Level 11 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Level 13 (Rogue) Skill: Balance (+9) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Automatic) Evasion Level 14 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (6): Banishment Spell (6): Blade Barrier Spell (6): Cometfall Spell (6): Create Undead Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding Spell (6): Harm Spell (6): Heal Spell (6): Heroes Feast Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom Spell (6): Summon Monster VI Spell (6): Symbol of Fear Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion Spell (6): Undead to Death Spell (6): Word of Recall Level 15 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Level 16 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (7): Destruction Spell (7): Greater Restoration Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds Spell (7): Mass Inflict Serious Wounds Spell (7): Mass Restoration Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass Spell (7): Resurrection Spell (7): Summon Monster VII Spell (7): Symbol of Stunning Spell (7): Symbol of Weakness Level 17 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 18 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Spell (8): Death Pact Spell (8): Firestorm Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds Spell (8): Mass Death Ward Spell (8): Mass Inflict Critical Wounds Spell (8): Summon Monster VIII Spell (8): Symbol of Death Level 19 (Cleric) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 20 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (9): Energy Drain Spell (9): Implosion Spell (9): Mass Heal Spell (9): Summon Monster IX Spell (9): True Resurrection Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Human Versatility II Enhancement: Human Versatility III Enhancement: Human Versatility IV Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing I Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing II Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing III Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery III Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
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03-31-2010, 06:43 PM #4
Theres no reason a Rogue splashed Ranger cant do Locks AND traps....
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Originally Posted by Severlin
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03-31-2010, 07:02 PM #5Community Member
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I just tweaked her build (added more int) so she could do both, she really wanted UMD as well. Now I'll make one of the more standard battle cleric builds. Which puts me back to the choice of either a the 19clr/1ftr or a 18clr/2ftr. Is losing the extra spells and spell penetration by only taking 18 cleric levels going to make a siginificant difference end game for landing offensive spells? I do want the ability to solo. Originally Posted by Impaqt
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03-31-2010, 07:06 PM #6Community Member
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Originally Posted by kgun78
Since you're already splashing, I'd recommend getting Evasion.
You said Battle Cleric, so I'm guessing that most of your SP will go towards healing and buffing, making Spell Penetration mainly a non-issue. The biggest end-game lose I think would be Energy Drain.
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